Carving out small bedroom

Before you do anything, keep in mind you may need to get DOB approval for this--there are size requirements if the space is to be legally turned into a bedroom and it must have a window. Of course, you could simply call it a 'study' if it doesn't meet the bedroom requirements...

We want to do the same thing for my daughter. We have to build 2 walls and a door. There is enough room. We need to get approval and it doesn't block any windows. I think we have to call it an office bc there will be no windows so it's not an official bedroom. The living room is large enough

Oh a wall is usually around 1000 bucks so multiply that by 2 and a door is usually included. These are pressurized walls so they are primarily rented and after a certain number of years you'd have to renew your lease on the walls. They don't hurt the building structure but they must meet the standards of the fire department

FYI, I am in the process of doing the same and was told that NYC code requires that the interior dimensions are a minimum of 8 feet length and width.

I think the city has cracked down the specs and code of new bedrooms after a firefighter was killed a bit ago.

bklyn3 - I'm intrigued by the concept of a built in couch. Do you have any pictures?

here you go!

http://pacificwoodworkersguild.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=0

when we were in the market for a classic6 i wanted to do something like this in the kitchen/maid's room. open it up, just not have that space be a big eat in kitchen but a little den/tv room, while making the actual usable kitchen part a little smaller and sticking some kind of counter seating somewhere to eat breakfast/do homework when the time comes for some of us to do homework. i might still do that when we grow up and buy a house. it's nice to have a little tv room off the kitchen, it leaves the rest of the place tv free.

Memito, can you point me to a place where it says that in order for me to make a room a bedroom, it has to be a minimum of 8 feet by 8 feet? What if I want to call it a office or a study room?

I am looking to convert my alcove area (with a window) to a small bedroom. It is 9x7. Do you think I will run into problems?

http://pacificwoodworkersguild.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=2

you can see it better in this pic (there are more at the bottom of the page). i always wonder why built in couches are not as popular as other built ins, every one i've seen was really great and you can add drawers underneath for storage (like here). where we still lived in the city we had this weird unused space where no piece of furniture really made sense and i always threatened to build a really easy little one myself from a plan like this

http://ana-white.com/2010/11/build-your-own-storage-sofa.html

if you have all the wood pre cut and delivered and have the right tools, even a girl could do it ;)

That is one ugly couch. I'd rather have have a big ass tv to look at than that.

Lucille I thought you owned a house in NJ. Do you just rent? If you have a house why would you need drawers for extra storage since you'll have all that extra space in the house? I can understand why you want those storage things in an apartment.

i appologize, it was presumptuous to assume that everyone would simply infer that a custom built in couch, by definition, could look any way you wanted it to.

no, we rent our house. something i mentioned on the school thread, in this post addressed to you personally, mere days ago.

lucillebluth
9 days ago
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report abuse thanks for the friendly wishes. as of now my snowflakes will be attending the public school in a decent though by no means top shelf nj town where we rent a fairly modest house.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/27530-ues-ps-school-admission-process-questions

perhaps the benefits of a rigorous private education to one's analytical and cognitive development are not as inconsequential and overstated as some would like to believe hhhmmmmmm?

heil huntersburg!

i'd offer to pass on that message for you, but as i have mentioned before, i am no longer speaking to him. and he'll probably be around to play with you later. so just hang in there while he's eating dinner or something, like a normal person. while you're here, waiting for him.

>i am no longer speaking to him.

Why?

sieg heil.

"Why?"

because that was really f*cked up and i don't know why you felt you had to do that. i was never any kind of threat, i would never out you, i never asked you for any favors. i've never asked ANYONE for anything..............ok, i've never asked anyone who is not a blood relation for anything. but we're either friends or we aren't. i do ask that the people i bring into my life at least appreciate having access to me and my dementia. and what you did was f*cked up. as you very well know.

who are you kidding?

hmm

why do you feel the need to pretend?

you are all powerful.

everyone bows to you.

does "everyone" include you?

and are you sure you can speak for everyone?

sieg heil

That's fine, a little German, I guess it won't hurt you. But answer the question

and here i thought you were a smart guy.

you forgot the basic rule?

So you've already stopped bowing?

still puking.

Ooh, I'm sorry, the chemo does that to even the strongest of men.

remind me of your manifesto.

>manifesto

??

I'm not Mussolini, you know?

Oh so sorry Lucille that I don't read your diatribes in depth nor store them in my limited brain cells. Don't go insulting my education because of my disinterest in things you post. Anyway, I suppose my ivy education isn't considered private anymore.

Just so you know I don't know anyone who rents a house. I know people do, but personally not a one.

i tried to think of something to say to you, but i cant think of a single thing. have a nice day, i guess.

We had DOB approve a 6' x 10' study/office that we will use as a guest room, but one wall does not go entirely to the ceiling. No window but has its own heating and a/c register.

tbshkan,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

The 8 x 8 mininum space for a 1 bedroom was given to me by my landlords - two individuals who have decades of experience and dozens of buildings in the city.

Of course they might be wrong, but for now I am going to trust that they are up-to-date with buiding code in NYC.

I am going to look for DOB regs regarding this and when I find them I will post them.

Again, while it is off the cuff, I can't help but remember reading an article talking about how the DOB was going to start taking new room code more seriously after a fireman died entering a room without a window.

well CC, there are those who rent a house in NJ because they want more space for the family (maybe even a bedroom for each child) and the possibility of a good public school education and those who rent a one bedroom apartment in Stuytown, carve a child's bedroom from the living room and want (hope?) for the possibility of a good public school education. Chacun a son gout.

I read about the fireman who died, extremely tragic. I assume it was due to the backdraft but I'm not a pyro expert. I would opt for a pressurized wall more than anything though especially after getting one installed with a window to conform to the city code's . I even started a blog about the market in nyc for a class at NYU feel free to check it out http://pressurizedwallsguide.blogspot.com