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Balcony Code Question

Started by Cpalms
about 14 years ago
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My apartment has a nice balcony (20 x 6). However, the balcony's surface is builder grade crap, it's kind of like course sandpaper - It is ugly and not holding up well. I would like to cover the balcony with wood decking (Ipe). If I were to do it properly it would raise the level of the floor by 2 1/2 inches. My railing is 42 inches (the code minimum I believe) high therefore installing the wood deck creates a code issue (raising the railing is not an option). I found this application (below) that raises the level by 1 3/16. It would be out of code but only slightly. Assuming I could get it installed, what would you do? Any input is much appreciated. http://www.handydeck.com/swiftdeck.html
Response by NYRENewbie
about 14 years ago
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While your deck material looks very nice, is beauty more valuable than safety? Ask yourself that question and I think you'll know what to do.

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Response by NWT
about 14 years ago
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The code for railing height used to be much lower, 36" I think. Probably one person managed to flip over, so in the usual over-reaction the code was changed.

The real issue is, who owns the balcony? Not cpalms. The co-op or condo or landlord owns it, so cpalms has to go to them for approval. I wouldn't bet on it.

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Response by apt23
about 14 years ago
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cpalms Even if the coop didn't have to approve it -- which they absolutely do-- you would have to remove all of it when you sell as you wouldn't want liability exposure for selling anything without disclosing that it was not up to code. There are other options that would not violate the code and still allow you to have a nice looking balcony.

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Response by Cpalms
about 14 years ago
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Thanks for the responses, I hear ya, It is a small condo and I do not think the approval process would be an issue.....apt23, what other options would you suggest?

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Response by enfuego
about 14 years ago
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I put down a competing product made by VIFAH on my deck and it looks fantastic (I went with teak). Since it all snaps together, it's a non-issue when it comes time to move out because it just sits on the concrete. If you're reasonably handy, it's not hard at all to install the tiles yourself.

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Response by ab_11218
about 14 years ago
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how about polished concrete. will not need to have too much height and will not feel like sandpaper.

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Response by Cpalms
about 14 years ago
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Thanks enfuego, I think that is a similar product to the one I linked above, still create a high issue for me...my balcony looks exactly like this one, although not decked in the Ipe of course...

http://www.vifahwholesale.com/servlet/the-183/Pack-of-100-Tiles/Detail

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Response by front_porch
about 14 years ago
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I'd considered the concrete "conform to code" solution, if only because if you install a product that violates code, and someone falls off, your insurance company is going to use the code violation as a reason to not pay out.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by NYCMatt
about 14 years ago
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"It is a small condo and I do not think the approval process would be an issue...."

If it's not to code, it's illegal. Period. There's no "approval process" that will change that.

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Response by lad
about 14 years ago
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Interesting. Is the code retroactive, or is there any grandfathering? I'm wonderng if my balcony railing (installed around 1970) is legal.

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Response by nyc10023
about 14 years ago
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Ikea has snap-together decking that is 1" thick. http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20165486.

What about using an outdoor carpet or rug?

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Response by gcondo
about 14 years ago
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astroturf!

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Response by NYCMatt
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Response by Cpalms
about 14 years ago
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actually my neighbor has a custom outdoor rug made that fits perfectly on their balcony(same size as mine)but it is just not a finished enough look for me....not to get to personal, but I like going onto my balcony in the AM with bare feet and I like the way a deck feels against my feet :)....and for what it is worth, It's a small condo, with good neighbors...the approval process goes like this..bump into the board president in the lobby and I say (hey, I'm going to put down some wood decking on my balcony...he says, sounds good,send me a plan for the file and invite me over for a glass of wine when its done so I can check it out"...on some other issues the board is a bit more stringent...

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Response by gcondo
about 14 years ago
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long leaf grasstroturf!

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Response by gcondo
about 14 years ago
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or maybe this is better:

http://swiftdeck.com/

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Response by Cpalms
about 14 years ago
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see my first post....

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Response by NYCMatt
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Also, keep in mind that the "approval" process goes smoothly in CONDOS because their "boards" basically have no power.

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