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Loft 55__LAND LEASE?

Started by MR17_5
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2011
Does anyone know if this building is on a land lease?
Response by NWT
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

Yes. When the lease expires in 2101, the co-op or its successor has right of first offer to buy the land and building. Don't know what the rental terms are, but they'll be in the financials.

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Response by West34
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2009

The land lease list in progress:

100 West 57th - Carnegie House
101 West 23rd
110 Central Park South (leasehold condop)
116 West 22nd - SOMA
142 Duane
150 East 61st
167 East 61st - Trump Plaza
175 East 62nd
177 9th Ave - Chelsea Enclave
190 East 72nd
2 Tudor City Place
205 East 63rd
215 East 96th - One Carnegie Hill
24 5th Ave
242 East 25th
27 East 65th
303 East 57th - Excelsior
305 West 16th (leasehold condop)
310 East 46
333 East 91st - Azure
34 Leonard
343 East 74th
4 West 21st - 4W21 (marketed as "condop" but really landlease coop)
419 West 55th - Loft 55
420 East 51st
445 Lafayette - Astor Place (leasehold condop?)
50 East 8th
50 Gramercy Park North
54 East 8th
520 West 23rd - Marais
575 Park Avenue - The Beekman
88 Morningside (Central Harlem)
995 Fifth Ave - The Stanhope
*Battery Park City (*condos on gov't land w/ PILOT)

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Response by ClintonBuyer
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2011

West34, thanks for posting this useful list!

Just FYI, 310 East 46 isn't a land lease bldg. Their maintenance is high because of the giant underlying mortgage!

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Response by West34
over 14 years ago
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According to several posts in this thread it's a land lease:
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/3161-310-e-46-street

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Response by NWT
over 14 years ago
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Those posts were wrong. ClintonBuyer and some posters in that thread were correct: it's not a land-lease.

It went co-op in the previous boom, 1988. The sponsor saddled the co-op with a $25,000,000 mortgage, so the price for an average apartment was $76,000 less than it would've been had they gone condo. Maintenance was correspondingly higher than CCs would've been, to cover that debt service. No big deal.

By 1998 the co-op had paid down $4,000,000 of the principal, but then borrowed another $9,000,000, taking it to the $30,000,000 it's been ever since.

I don't know what the co-op spent the $9,000,000 on, but remember reading about some major work.

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