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addictively scan streeteasy or go to Obama party at 4pm?

Started by poorishlady
over 18 years ago
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It's cold and I'm depressed and I've already missed a 1pm surprise birthday party for a friend of mine. Should I stay in my pajamas and keep surfing streeteasy or should I go to an Obama party at 4pm? Who are all you RE addicts voting for anyway? Don't worry. It won't affect NYC RE.
Response by will
over 18 years ago
Posts: 480
Member since: Dec 2007

Poorishladay, keep hope alive and go to the Obama rally. Also tell his people to tell him to get behind Sen. Dodd's mortgage relief bill. It's one of the only things that stands between normalcy and economic calamity over the next 6-18 months. I know that some of the (expletive deleted) gurus on this board want the market to do it's work, but I frankly don't want to live through a deep recession, don't want to see people put out of their homes and jobs, etc. It doesn't have to be that way.

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Response by will
over 18 years ago
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PS -- Hope you find nicer people on the Obama, Move On, and Democracy in America blogs!!! :-)

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Response by JuiceMan
over 18 years ago
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I thought socialist populism was reserved for places in South America? If you don’t think Obama will have an impact on Manhattan RE, you are mistaken. Just wait for his anti-globalization and socialized medicine programs to kick in. Our paychecks will be 15% lighter and the economy will really grind to a halt.

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Response by will
over 18 years ago
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Yes, I think Obama may be just as bad for the national economy and Manhattan RE as our last crypto-socialist President, Bill Clinton.

Frankly, I think all of these remaining candidates (Hillary, Obama and McCain) would govern from the center, and be a major improvement on what we have now.

Whoever is elected is going to face challenges undreamed of eight years ago. Looks like this eight-year nightmare of a presidency will end with a bang as the national economy de-constructs.

Hopefully, there's enough strength there to keep things going to the point that nobody has to take a 15% paycut.

Reminds me of something I heard a while back: A recession is when your neighbor is out of work; a depression is when you're out of work, and a recovery is when George Bush is out of work.

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Response by jjh3d
over 18 years ago
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After seven years of W, there's nothing left to screw up.

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Response by JuiceMan
over 18 years ago
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"Frankly, I think all of these remaining candidates (Hillary, Obama and McCain) would govern from the center"

I've heard the rhetoric, but center to Obama is just left of Hillary which is frightening. You don’t really believe Clinton had something to do with the prosperity of the 90’s do you?

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Response by girlygirl77
over 18 years ago
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I don't think Clint was responsible for the 90's prosperity. . .then in the same way Bush is not responsible for our massive deficit?

Basically - who can predict the future? I will admit I can't, though perhaps you can?

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Response by Kary
over 18 years ago
Posts: 25
Member since: Feb 2008

Hello Poorislady and Will. Where's Malf..x? Who's better? A woman or a Black man. Let's get real here, right? Or am I too straightforward? I am a bit afraid to press the reply button in fear of having some gov agency knocking on my door. To live in fear from our gov for speaking your mind, now that's democracy.

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Response by malraux
over 18 years ago
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Kary:

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Help a brother out..........anybody?

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Response by JuiceMan
over 18 years ago
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Kary, interested to hear your point of view on this. Can you explain further?

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Response by Kary
over 18 years ago
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Isn't anonymity interesting. Is it racist and/or sexist to say what I said? When we are standing in the voting booth casting our vote, what is the bottom line in our decision. This country hasn't come that far in those ways. Comedians get away with remarks, but I'm not a comedian, so am I able to speak my mind frankly?

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Response by JuiceMan
over 18 years ago
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Of course, why wouldn't you be? Everyone else on this board does.

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Response by Kary
over 18 years ago
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I just did

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Response by JuiceMan
over 18 years ago
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Ok. I guess I'm not following.

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Response by aboutready
over 18 years ago
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Juiceman, very recently (10 years or so ago) we had a medical care system that provided much greater coverage at MUCH less cost to the consumer. Almost every other "advanced" industrialized country has coverage that puts our country to shame, both for the haves and the have nots.

My daughter had appendicitis two years ago. I have recently given up the good fight, and paid off the last of the bills that OUGHT to have been paid by the insurance company. Over $4000 (including an ambulance bill for a little girl who could literally not walk two steps). And we pay over $1700 a month for our coverage.

Doctors are not happy, not at all. I think they may wish that they hadn't opposed Hillary's proposal in 92-93, because they're getting slammed now. Where are our next doctors going to come from? Who in their right f'n mind would spend the years and money for med school right now? WalMart clinics, here we come.

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Response by julia
over 18 years ago
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Why wasn't the ambulance not covered...I am self insured and never had a problem. Hope your daughter is healthy and happy now!!

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Response by aboutready
over 18 years ago
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Supertrooper, get a life. If you don't answer why, it's just a poll. It that's what you want, so be it, ignore the comments.

Julia, the insurance company claimed that we should have been able to get her into a cab. Early appendicitis is often quite mild. I suspected (possibly) appendicitis but realized that because she had eaten dinner she wouldn't be eligible for surgery for a number of hours, so I decided to wait. She woke up in the middle of the night in incredible pain, and my doctor changed his opinion to appendicitis so we had to call an ambulance. She IS very healthy and (usually, she is a pre-teen) happy now. Thanks!

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Response by Kary
over 18 years ago
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Wow, Stupertrooper. What's up with the temper. You are a state trooper aren't you. By the way, who are you voting for?

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Response by will
over 18 years ago
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I actually think that the election, the economy and the real estate market are very inter-related so think poorishlady's thread here is fine, even if it went off in a direction she was not necessarily intending.

And I would not want to state a voting preference and I am not sure that this forum is the appropriate place for discussion about health care policy, but I did run across an interesting item on the Internet:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/healthcareplan/

:-)

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Response by Columbus
over 18 years ago
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If you live in Manhattan chances are an Obama Administration would cost you at least $6,611 per year in lost income forever. Obama's plan to fix Social Security is to raise the salary cap on Social Security (FICA) contributions FROM $97,500 per year currently to $200,000 per year. Few people in America make more than $97,500, so increase would affect very few people. However, if you live in Manhattan, making $200,000 per year is your entry into the lower middle class. Obama's plan would take an additional 6.45% of your income from $97,500 to $200,000 to "fix" Social Security, that is $6,611 less take home pay for you to spend on rent or mortgage in Manhattan. If he rolls back Bush's federal tax rates, that will cost you a few extra thousand more.

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Response by NotAnonymous
over 18 years ago
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based on what columbus reported i'm going for mccain. new yorkers always get scr$wed.

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Response by girlygirl77
over 18 years ago
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New York votes Democratic generally and Manhattan more so - It is filled with people who vote based on social issues vs. fiscal (people like Bloomberg are good examples, while being billionaires).

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Response by tenemental
over 18 years ago
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Columbus, do you have a link or reference for this Obama policy? Is this a Dem policy that Hillary shares? Thanks.

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Response by kkdean
over 18 years ago
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Thank god that Obama is willing to be fiscally responsible enough to raise those taxes and roll back the tax cuts (and yes, I make enough to be affected by it.) Tough, but absolutely needed.

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Response by girlygirl77
over 18 years ago
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I think Bloomberg may a funny comment about Bush's recent tax cuts - I think he compared to it to give more alcohol to an alcoholic.

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Response by girlygirl77
over 18 years ago
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Above refers to tax rebates

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Response by will
over 18 years ago
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While I'm not supporting Obama, I agree with KKDean.

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