Tiling Bathroom
Started by hofo
over 13 years ago
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I am purchasing a prewar co-op and don't have the cash to remodel the whole bathroom. I asked one GC if he can simply tile over the existing tiles and he said no because it won't stick. Based on my research online I thought the Ditra system solves that problem and won't increase the height by much? Also, the bathroom has the old tank-less toilet. Can you actually tile under the toilet or must you go around it? I am afraid if that toilet leaks or breaks I would have to spend a lot to fix it up. Thank you!
Doing the demo of existing tiles is not that much $$
Removing the old tile really shouldnt cost that much
how much were you quoted at?
Almost everything can be done but it does not make it a good idea. Why not just have the tiles reglazed and then renovate the bathroom in a couple of years when you do have the cash? The Ditra system you are talking about is an anti fracture waterproofing membrane which i believe is for the floor, not to go over wall tiles (I could be wrong about that) but i will find out
Sorry, I was talking about layering over existing floor tiles. Would Ditra work or should it be a cement board to lay tiles on? Thanks
In theory you can but you should really remove the existing tile as well as go under the toilet
my contractor went over the tile on the floors with special thinset made for that purpose. i saw one bathroom, not realizing, where the owner went over the existing wall tiles as well with the same thinset.
always lift the toilet. my mother made that stupid mistake and it looks crappy.
how much does it cost to remove tile? i would think thats the cheapest thing involved in a bathroom renovation
It's functional? No current leaks? Then my advice is not to waste your $ on anything except a deep-clean, maybe regrouting, and paint. Don't waste your $ on a "small remodel".
What I did, myself, mid-50's female, is installed pebble tile over an existing tile surface. If you like the look and feel, it is DIY and very cheap. They have flat pebbles which I would recommend for a floor, we don't like standing on them so much. I did the shower stall in one bath and the floor in another.
You use thin set, which is mortar, and then tiles, which are on netting, and then grout. For walls you need stronger thinset than for floors because of gravity. Lowe's has great videos on how to do.
It is a WOW look now, we are very, very happy with it. It's a helluva lot of work, though, and requires a bit of an artistic sensibility. Pebble tiles are $6-$11 each.
nintzk,
It is not so much just the demo of the floor, you would have to remove the vanity and toilet and then after demo you might have to prep the floor. You might even need to use self level. So it could increase the cost.
The contractor quoted me $25k to remodel the whole bathroom, excluding tub since that is in good condition. He said the demo part is a lot of manual labor and can take over a week to complete the remodel.
I don't have the budget for that so I am thinking about just reglazing the tub & wall tiles, change vanity, medicine cabinet, and tile over existing floor tiles. Waiting for a 2nd contractor to come to price this out.
Any idea what this should cost? Is like a 5 X 9 bathroom.
Thx
Hofo,
Did that include all the tiles and plumbing fixtures?
Reglazing the tiles and tub would cost you anywhere from 1200-1600
Changing the medicine cabinet and vanity and tile depends on different factors
Primer,
Who do you have someone that would do a reglaze for 1200-1600?
All the numbers I got for my 5x7 bathroom were 1850 and up.
EShatz, try this, http://www.newsuperiortubrefinish.com/index.html
They have an A on Angie's list. From the reviews they seem pretty inexpensive but I have not used them yet.
Primer05, yes and no. It includes tiles but not vanity, med cabinet, and toilet. So it will be more than 25k. I am simply looking to use Home Depot or Lowes for the vanity and med cabinet. Tile wise just plain old 12x12 porcelain tiles. Will update once I rec the quote from 2nd GC.
regrout and reglaze
While I usually jump on the side of Kylewest et al. who warn of the high cost of renovation in NYC, a Home Depot type renovation of a 5x9 bathroom without replacing the tub (glass shower enclosure??) should not cost anything near $25K. As Primer detailed in a recent post, a true gut of the bathroom with replacing plumbing back to the risers, etc. and relatively high-end finishes "should" (or at least will) cost $25K.
Eshatz,
Email me at primerenovations@mac.com
My guy is less expensive then most but I have not reglazed a bathroom in a long time so his prices could be a little higher
He also is very good
Hofo, what would be your ideal budget? I'm in a pre-war apartment and had my entire bathroom done for much less than 25K. Let me know if you're interested in another recommendation. (email me at marazzi246@hotmail.com)
Granted, the job was finished YESTERDAY, so I can't testify to the durability of the work. But I'm confident it's all going to hold up. I'm in the process of writing them a testimonial. Fully licensed, insured, and took care of the paperwork with the co-op.
If you're really not up for a full bathroom remodel, however, listen to what Primer has to say and go from there.
Why not replace the tub while re-tiling?
New tubs cost $900-1500 and look great next to new tiles. Old tubs somehow end up looking bad once the who;e job is done and they stick out like a sore thumb. Also gives you a chance to update plumbing including new shut-ff valves making future repairs much easier.
Hofo,
Have you seen New Superior's work? I just got a quote from them yesterday, $750 to reglaze tub & tile for my bathroom.
Eshatz, have not seen their work yet. But from Angie's list and BBB they seem to be legit.
Macau, my budget for the whole apartment was $25k. So when i got the est for the bathroom, I freaked out. So I discussed with my wife and we decided to just reglaze in bathroom for now. Looking to reface and change countertop in the kitchen as well.
At this point, looking to spend less than original budget of 25k since we may only live there for a few years and don't want to over do it and take a bath when we sell.
I agree that you shouldn't over do anything. For anything in life, really. :) But an updated bath would be big sell point, no?
Our budget for the bath was half of your budget for the whole apartment, which I think is realistic in terms of proportions. You'd have more than enough left to do the minor work you mentioned in the kitchen.
If you're not going to replace the tub, will do research to source affordable materials that you like, you'll save a lot of money. They do say you get what you pay for... in this case I'm relieved to say that so far, I like what I paid for.