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Sale at 133 West 119th Street

Started by Pawn_Harvester
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 321
Member since: Jan 2009
Discussion about 133 West 119th Street #1
I saw this house this week and was impressed by the size and condition. While the systems are aparently in disrepair (ie. no water or electric currently on), the structure seems pretty nice. I'm told it was repossessed in foreclosure, is an SRO and the last owner is a major snake who will likely try to extort the new owner for money related to SRO tenants, etc. The price seems reasonable - Does anyone think there is a lot of downside in a purchase at or close to asking price? If so, what are the major risks?
Response by karhu
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 84
Member since: Aug 2010

I think this is a great deal although I have not seen it in person. It's a 4-family building not SRO and all violations are dismissed.

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Response by front_porch
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

Houses are way more complicated than apartments.

Buying without a certificate of no harassment would, I think, open you up to the possibility of significant legal judgments afterwards; significant tax risk in buying a four-family, so when it's restored, taxes jump by thousands annually; possibility that neighboring structures somehow have created a foundation risk; significant restoration costs... am I missing anything?

I can imagine a world in which you lovingly restore this for ten years, and prize the home you've built out of sweat equity, and I can imagine a world in which the odometer on this runs hundreds of thousands past the purchase price. I mean, five bathrooms without working plumbing? That alone can easily be a six-figure problem.

I would do this only with patience and deep, deep pockets.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by Pawn_Harvester
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 321
Member since: Jan 2009

Karhu - It's an SRO, that is 100% confirmed with HPD & DHCR. Violations are not dismissed. Your information is flawed.

My guess is 3-4 years before you can convert it to class A apartments, plus $500,000 in taxes, insurance, pulumbing / electric, etc. The wild card is past tenants and the last owner.

Has anyone heard of SRO tenants who moved out of a unit regaining tenancy by right?

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Response by karhu
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 84
Member since: Aug 2010

Oops my bad, I was looking at 113 west 119th.

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Response by notadmin
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

sounds like this was used as a hostel, possibly the worse in town

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60763-d1738091-Reviews-Explorers_House_Upper_Westside-New_York_City_New_York.html

only one of the bathrooms was working apparently

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Response by notadmin
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 3835
Member since: Jul 2008

is this gangster-style RE broker poetry? what does C/O's stands for? Violations!? what is this!?

Sold “As Is”. All Info Deemed Reliable But Not G’teed. Buyer To Verify Taxes/C/O’s, Violations.
For The Savvy Buyer Who Knows Their Way Around The New York City Building Departments Rules & Regulations.

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Response by Homeybuyer
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2012

there is an accepted offer close to ask. consider this vs. 246 lenox.

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Response by notadmin
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

wow, that's a courageous buyer!

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Response by Pawn_Harvester
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 321
Member since: Jan 2009

I think the cost was low enough that it made sense. 246 lenox, on the other hand, is an overpriced POC.

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