Went to see this building today. $2480 for a 650sf 1 bedroom in Crown Heights sans-doorman. The hallways didn't have ACs on and there were holes around the vents (which is probably why the ACs were off). None of the courtyard/balcony spaces were sectioned off fully, so people might spill over into your part of the area unless you fill your area up. I could see that becoming a weird issue (or maybe... [more]
Went to see this building today.
$2480 for a 650sf 1 bedroom in Crown Heights sans-doorman. The hallways didn't have ACs on and there were holes around the vents (which is probably why the ACs were off). None of the courtyard/balcony spaces were sectioned off fully, so people might spill over into your part of the area unless you fill your area up. I could see that becoming a weird issue (or maybe you'll talk to your neighbors more).
There was also a constant whirring from the roof nearby and noise from a train half a block away from the building. Plus, the expected electricity cost was $375. 6 blocks from the train station as well so expect a walk in the snow & sweltering heat. At the very least there are some cute shops along Franklin Ave.
According to a reference book they had on-site, your monthly cost is at least $2850 including utilities if you want a higher-floor apartment with a view of anything besides the building on behind it. Other apartments cost around $2100 if you don't want a washer/dryer. There's an additional $50 charge for that.
What do you guys think? Crazy to charge that much? Or is this building going to get filled up quick?
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Response by jim_hones10
over 13 years ago
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No opinion on brooklyn other than it sucks.
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Response by huntersburg
over 13 years ago
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Says a guy from New Jersey who imported his wife.
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Response by jim_hones10
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No shame in someone with your limited resources trying their hardest to stay near the center of it all cunt. If bk is the best you can do......
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Response by huntersburg
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I'm a Manhattan resident. I am also Manhattan born.
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Response by columbiacounty
over 13 years ago
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Where do you go to school?
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Response by huntersburg
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Columbia County Community Prep
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Response by moccawaii
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You guys have a lot of beef on here, eh?
Anyway, someone living in New Jersey shouldn't be complaining about Brooklyn. Glass houses, etc...
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Response by moccawaii
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Also it would be nice to hear actual opinions about the pricing and stuff :P
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Response by huntersburg
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Jim no longer lives in New Jersey.
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Response by jim_hones10
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Over priced. It's brooklyn. Not even a nice part.
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Response by huntersburg
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That's code for Jim for a neighborhood with minorities he doesn't approve of.
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Response by lowery
over 13 years ago
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Reading the first post gave me the impression it's a rental. It's a condo, right? Your first impressions did not seem favorable, and you are the one who would be buying. Listen to yourself; you're saying it's not worth it.
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Response by moccawaii
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It was a condo named Ishi, but no one wanted to pay $300k for the apartments. They recently converted the building to a rental.
And you're right.
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Response by lowery
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It's too much for a nondoorman building and only 650 sq ft, but if it were in a better neighborhood, maybe...........
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Response by Foo
over 13 years ago
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while I hear that nabe is 'up and coming' I think that the price is waaaayy too much. if you are even thinking about paying 2480 plus 375 electric for a non-doorman in Brooklyn for 650 s f, you can get a place in a much better area - at least a block or two from a 'real subway' not that bleeding 'shuttle' that takes you to another train. Also, I am not sure how close this section of St. Marks will be to the new stadium or how traffic will run, but steer clear of that area in your search.
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Response by ny10006
over 13 years ago
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Did they drop the price? It looks like 1BRs are going for $1,922 to $2,231 now (or so it says on Streeteasy). Any one know if those are real prices?
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Response by pier45
over 13 years ago
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Fascinating that some of these buildings get built. 10x10 is just not a comfortable living room even with double height ceiling.
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Response by ab_11218
over 13 years ago
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once they drop $1K from that rental, they will go. a shoe box with insane electric costs can only be rented in Manhattan. they should change the neighborhood to Prospect Heights and you'll find plenty of morons to rent it for around $1.7-2K per month.
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Response by tskinner
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As someone who actually lives in these apartments I can give a first hand account and tell you that it's a mixed bag. First the good stuff. While the space is narrow - it is still livable and having one of the more generous outdoor spaces prevents it from being claustrophobic. The lack of significant partitions between balconies has not been an issue to date. It forces a friendly and social atmosphere between some neighbors (almost universally aged under 30) - but not recommended for hermits or people extremely private about their space. Courtyard set up with windows at the end of kitchens and living rooms does make for a bit of a fishbowl effect. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a cross-section illustration - but most neighbors keeps some type of blind or curtain to avoid awkwardness. Also really beautiful skyline views from the top floors and roof. Neighborhood has a great vibe right now with tons of shops, bars and restaurants on Franklin Ave and the surrounding neighborhood. Huge grocery store, indoor bike storage/garage and pleasant indoor/outdoor common area are also pluses. Live in super is very nice guy and takes great care of the place.
Now, the CONS. It is noisy as all hell. You get used to the hum of fans on the neighboring garage and the shuttle eventually and just chalk it up as ambient noise. Speaking of the shuttle, it's only two cars long and run infrequently. While it was an adjustment during the first week, now I barely notice it. The real crime of this building is the electric bills and poor insulation. Overall, these apartments are ideal for warm temperatures with their big sliding doors you get a great cross breeze and the lower floors stay cool with the use of the A/C unit. Winter on the other hand makes you feel like you're freezing in some Moscow tenement building, suffering under an oppressive Soviet regime. The heaters take forever to kick in and even once they get going they really act more like a space heater and don't heat up the whole apartment ever. The second half of the crime is how high the electric bills are (in general) but especially in the winter. When the weather gets cold and you're using your heater every night you can easily expect electric bills in the neighborhood of $300 and thats on the low end and without running a washer dryer. Add that to rents that are climbing with the popularity of the neighborhood - generally $2300 - $2500. The management company only wants to get paid and while I've rarely had a building manager who wants to be your best buddy this company reals has no time for their tenants needs or concerns.
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No opinion on brooklyn other than it sucks.
Says a guy from New Jersey who imported his wife.
No shame in someone with your limited resources trying their hardest to stay near the center of it all cunt. If bk is the best you can do......
I'm a Manhattan resident. I am also Manhattan born.
Where do you go to school?
Columbia County Community Prep
You guys have a lot of beef on here, eh?
Anyway, someone living in New Jersey shouldn't be complaining about Brooklyn. Glass houses, etc...
Also it would be nice to hear actual opinions about the pricing and stuff :P
Jim no longer lives in New Jersey.
Over priced. It's brooklyn. Not even a nice part.
That's code for Jim for a neighborhood with minorities he doesn't approve of.
Reading the first post gave me the impression it's a rental. It's a condo, right? Your first impressions did not seem favorable, and you are the one who would be buying. Listen to yourself; you're saying it's not worth it.
It was a condo named Ishi, but no one wanted to pay $300k for the apartments. They recently converted the building to a rental.
And you're right.
It's too much for a nondoorman building and only 650 sq ft, but if it were in a better neighborhood, maybe...........
while I hear that nabe is 'up and coming' I think that the price is waaaayy too much. if you are even thinking about paying 2480 plus 375 electric for a non-doorman in Brooklyn for 650 s f, you can get a place in a much better area - at least a block or two from a 'real subway' not that bleeding 'shuttle' that takes you to another train. Also, I am not sure how close this section of St. Marks will be to the new stadium or how traffic will run, but steer clear of that area in your search.
Did they drop the price? It looks like 1BRs are going for $1,922 to $2,231 now (or so it says on Streeteasy). Any one know if those are real prices?
Fascinating that some of these buildings get built. 10x10 is just not a comfortable living room even with double height ceiling.
once they drop $1K from that rental, they will go. a shoe box with insane electric costs can only be rented in Manhattan. they should change the neighborhood to Prospect Heights and you'll find plenty of morons to rent it for around $1.7-2K per month.
As someone who actually lives in these apartments I can give a first hand account and tell you that it's a mixed bag. First the good stuff. While the space is narrow - it is still livable and having one of the more generous outdoor spaces prevents it from being claustrophobic. The lack of significant partitions between balconies has not been an issue to date. It forces a friendly and social atmosphere between some neighbors (almost universally aged under 30) - but not recommended for hermits or people extremely private about their space. Courtyard set up with windows at the end of kitchens and living rooms does make for a bit of a fishbowl effect. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a cross-section illustration - but most neighbors keeps some type of blind or curtain to avoid awkwardness. Also really beautiful skyline views from the top floors and roof. Neighborhood has a great vibe right now with tons of shops, bars and restaurants on Franklin Ave and the surrounding neighborhood. Huge grocery store, indoor bike storage/garage and pleasant indoor/outdoor common area are also pluses. Live in super is very nice guy and takes great care of the place.
Now, the CONS. It is noisy as all hell. You get used to the hum of fans on the neighboring garage and the shuttle eventually and just chalk it up as ambient noise. Speaking of the shuttle, it's only two cars long and run infrequently. While it was an adjustment during the first week, now I barely notice it. The real crime of this building is the electric bills and poor insulation. Overall, these apartments are ideal for warm temperatures with their big sliding doors you get a great cross breeze and the lower floors stay cool with the use of the A/C unit. Winter on the other hand makes you feel like you're freezing in some Moscow tenement building, suffering under an oppressive Soviet regime. The heaters take forever to kick in and even once they get going they really act more like a space heater and don't heat up the whole apartment ever. The second half of the crime is how high the electric bills are (in general) but especially in the winter. When the weather gets cold and you're using your heater every night you can easily expect electric bills in the neighborhood of $300 and thats on the low end and without running a washer dryer. Add that to rents that are climbing with the popularity of the neighborhood - generally $2300 - $2500. The management company only wants to get paid and while I've rarely had a building manager who wants to be your best buddy this company reals has no time for their tenants needs or concerns.