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Started by falcogold1
almost 14 years ago
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Earlier this year I made a bid for a 3 bedroom Sutton Place apartment. A week and a half of back and forth found us 25K apart. I held my ground and the next day there was a new buyer and I was gone. No ask to beat the new bid just...bye bye. Now that the sale shows up on Acris for exactly my bid. WTF?
Response by yikes
almost 14 years ago
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coop? and your comp was an all cash buyer, or had some other perceived greater liklihood of board approval--or you were a shill for a first right of refusal situation

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Response by alanhart
almost 14 years ago
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falcogold1, you're too good for that apartment anyway.

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Response by falcogold1
almost 14 years ago
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alan....too true, too true.
Broker thinks it went against an all cash offer.
finally, we have unlocked the value of an all cash offer.

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Response by inonada
almost 14 years ago
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Another possibility is that it was a one-sided deal.

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Response by w67thstreet
almost 14 years ago
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Buy sprint and double up your dp. Heck just get rid of mortgage. After 120% returns, ya may never buy re.

Truth be told. I bid on a 'short sale' unit 2.5 yrs ago. Disgusted with the whole process with BofA, underwater seller and borkers inclusive of short sale ''experts'. I almost got them to bite on a $1.8mm bid with 50% cash. Lost it for $50k., which I am sure BofA lent them. So BofA took a 10% down 'buyer' over w67. Fast forward, I'm up $800k on my sprint in 4 months....

Bubble gods take and giveth. You are gonna score big falco.

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Response by Brooks2
almost 14 years ago
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which one?

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Response by caonima
almost 14 years ago
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is falco a broker? now he changed identity to be a buyer???

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Response by huntersburg
almost 14 years ago
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caonima, why do you always post right after Brooks2, but never actually address Brooks2?

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Response by Brooks2
almost 14 years ago
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You can't be serious.

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Response by Brooks2
almost 14 years ago
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HB, why would I change handles? Please explain possible motives?

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Response by front_porch
almost 14 years ago
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FG, you and broker are speculating that you went up against an all-cash offer -- but if you can see the transaction in ACRIS, can't you see if there's a mortgage or not?

On a co-op a UCC-1 should have been filed -- I guess that a buyer could cause a UCC-1 to be filed and then subsequently NOT take a loan, but it seems unlikely.

Certainly if a buyer were all-cash from the beginning, you would see only the transaction RETT/RPTT.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by inonada
almost 14 years ago
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Good point, FP.

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Response by FreebirdNYC
almost 14 years ago
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See http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/30379-better-deals-for-all-cash-buyers (I lost a bid to a cash bidder who was 8% below me last summer)

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Response by truthskr10
almost 14 years ago
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>Good point, FP.

Agree however not foolproof. My purchase was "all cash" but elected to get a small mortgage during the process. It didnt affect timing of closing so it was a non issue yet if my purchase were the one of this discussion, you'd see a UCC1 and think it wasn't all cash.

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