KABOOM!!!...Second Avenue

makin progress!!

Part of a great city is having a first rate metro. I'm hoping they get it done under budget and ahead of schedule. If we can improve the city's infrastructure more businesses may locate and expand here. We need to commute under-ground and get rid of those polluting and inefficient buses and taxis.

Is we equal to they?

anyone ever visit a city that primarily uses electric busses? do you have any statistics on pollution generated by various forms of public transit, RS, or are you just talking out of your ass again?

I have reported this thread.

progress sometimes brings some degree of peril. More was lost constructing subways 100 years ago. We all have to sacrifice, yes even peace and quiet, to make the city better

What does "under budget and ahead of schedule" mean???

What does "under budget and ahead of schedule" mean???

When it comes to government building something, it means you are in fantasy land....

>and get rid of those polluting and inefficient buses

Really, the subway system pollutes less than the NYC bus system?

http://www.mta.info/nyct/facts/ffenvironment.htm#clean_bus

Despite the bus improvements, 1) the fleet is not close to being off diesel, 2) subways carry hundreds of people and are their own effective means of collecting people and don't start and stop anywhere near as often as buses.

Take a look at the subway map. There are huge areas not serviced directly by subways. Anyone care to hazard a guess what it would take to create a system more akin to Tokyo's or London's?

I'm a big fan of the select bus lines. They are very well utilized (some of the other east side north/south lines have had a very noticeable decline in ridership since the introduction of the select service).

Despite the bus improvements, 1) the fleet is not close to being off diesel, 2) subways carry hundreds of people and are their own effective means of collecting people and don't start and stop anywhere near as often as buses.

Add to that the above ground congestion and the annoyance of waiting for buses in inclement weather, or waiting half hour for a bus and then seeing five buses come one on top of each other.

AS long as the electric power for subways comes from "clean" sources, its unambiguously greener than natural gas buses, of course.

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs...