50 Murray hurricane sandy rent reduction

Now why would Rose offer a rent reduction for an Act of God? It's not like it was their fault that they building was uninhabitable.

Because the lease doesn't include an exclusion for Acts of God.

That's what's wrong with the NYC rental market - Godless leases.

If you live in 50 Murray and would like a rent reduction I would recommend you contact the building manager at Rose (I think name is Peter or Pete) at 212-425-8144. The lease is black and white on this issue - the owner owes all tenants a rent reduction.

The fact of the matter is is that the building didn't provide services, therefore can't conceivably charge you for that, hence a rent reduction. Con Ed wouldn't charge you for electricity that you weren't using because they couldn't provide it, even though you wanted it and they wanted to sell it to you. I live in a Rose managed building and they gave a rent reduction without us even asking. It would be illegal not to.

Be curious to hear how it works out...god luck with that. I used to live at 50 Murray and that Michelle Moran is a tough cookie. You better be prepared to wine and dine her before asking for a rent rebate...

there's typically a clause in the lease about inhabitability of premises. if there's not heat or hot water, NYC considers the apartment uninhabitable.

There doesn't need to be a clause in the lease. There's an implied warranty of habitability as a fundamental principle of the landlord/tenant relationship.

http://www.ag.ny.gov/tips-homeowners-and-tenants-aftermath-hurricane-sandy

Useful info. I just checked my 50 Murray lease and section 7 is a warranty of habitability. So Rose is blatantly violating the law by not giving tenants a rent reduction. That's a pretty dirtbag thing to do.

What line of work are you in?

Naive housewife. What's the easiest way to file a complaint with the AG? Can you do that anonymously?

you should just pay them less rent for a month with a letter attached showing your rent divided by 30 and then multiplied by the # of days you weren't able to inhabit the apartment. if you never left, you really have no leg to stand on.

and i wouldnt do that--if they havent agreed to the rent rebate, they may fock with your credit

witholding from a big bad corp like rose not a good idea

Ten four over and out, how long are you planning on continuing to live there? Do you want to renew your lease?

Separately what possible benefit would an anonymous complaint to the AG serve? And from the AG's POV, with all of the complaints and legal problems in NYS, why would the AG take action on a matter where the complaintant didn't even want to give a name?

Can someone who lives in the building tell us what actually happened with the rent reductions? I live in a Rockrose building (The Archive) and they gave everyone an immediate and automatic rent reduction for the days the building was without power and water after the hurricane, we didn't even have to ask. I think that's what responsible landlords do. We are now considering moving either within our building or possibly to 50 Murray, and it would make a difference if I knew Rose did not make its tenants whole for the hurricane.

The hurricane is over.

No kidding. But how the management handled it is material in my decision as to whether or not I want to move to this building. I'm glad my building gave automatic rent reductions so that this was one last thing to fight about, and I'd be suspicious of a building that did not do the same. Anyone know what happened at 50 Murray?