we are selling our downtown place and focusing on getting another unit in midtown west... we don't need to sell in order to buy the midtown pad, so we actually dont mind if listing goes stale as tenant is paying a good amount.. ..tenant happens to also be a family friend so we want him to be comfortable with us showing the place while he lives in it for however long the listing sits... ...is there... [more]
we are selling our downtown place and focusing on getting another unit in midtown west... we don't need to sell in order to buy the midtown pad, so we actually dont mind if listing goes stale as tenant is paying a good amount..
..tenant happens to also be a family friend so we want him to be comfortable with us showing the place while he lives in it for however long the listing sits...
...is there a norm, besides say consolidating showings to brokers/buyers say mond and thursday 2PM only so as to not bother tenant while they'll be at work??
we hope to keep the tenant (and friend) long term in case the place doesn't sell as quickly (which we are okay due to rental income), so we dont wanna bother him too much but of course want max exposure/showings at the same time.. we already told him to not bother cleaning the place up in showroom status, as we understand he has a lief too, thanks for any advice
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Response by greensdale
almost 13 years ago
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I think that if you call it a "pad" then you can show it whenever.
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Response by vslse65
almost 13 years ago
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We have two such situations right now.
We coordinate weekend Open Houses and ask if the tenants can at least "tidy up". Don't underestimate the importance of this. As much as you don't want to bother the tenants, it's also important not to show a messy unit.
You mentioned showing the unit while tenant is at work, but have you confirmed that's ok with them? Not everyone is comfortable the unit being shown when they're not home.
That said, we ask if it's ok for private showings on a need basis with notice. Since you're looking for max exposure, there will be potential buyers who can't make weekend Open Houses and want to see it on "X" day and @ "Y" time. If the tenant is a friend (and trusts you), as long as you're the one showing the unit, hopefully they won't mind.
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Response by Ottawanyc
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Sounds like you are confusing friendship with the need to complete an important financial transaction. Seems you are being too good a friend here.
Why not just download this to your broker and explain the situation. He/she can then work out with the tenant (who if they are a good friend will do everything possible to help you sell the place/put himself on the street).
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Response by front_porch
almost 13 years ago
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I would buy a gift card as a "thanks in advance for the dislocation" gift, but definitely ask for minimal showing cleanup -- I think asking tenant to make the bed, raise the blinds, and do the dishes before leaving for work is not too much of an imposition.
"clustering" the showings into a couple of days a week is nice too.
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Response by greensdale
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>Seems you are being too good a friend here.
Nonsense. It's not friendship. He has a paying tenant who is first and foremost entitled to use the apartment. Tenant has no obligation to keep the place tidy or even to allow last minute showings.
It is in your best interests to treat the tenant with respect notwithstanding your expectation of friendship. It sounds like the rate the tenant is paying is arms length and market if not better, so deal with him accordingly.
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Response by greensdale
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I agree with Ali, but you might pick up a cleaning bill too if you are going to ask for dishes to be done, etc. (or even if not, you may just want a professional deep cleaning, at your expense.)
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Response by crescent22
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Is gd really hb? gd sounds so helpful and congenial here
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Response by greensdale
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Greensdale and huntersburg are no-nonsense and generally tend to call out idiots of all stripes.
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Response by columbiacounty
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does that extend to pretentious assholes who refer to themselves in the third person?
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Response by greensdale
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Possibly, each situation has to be carefully evaluated. Is the person truly a pretentious asshole AND referring to himself in the third person? Or is the person not a pretentious asshole but still referring to himself in the third person? How frequently does this happen in context of the total level of contribution by the person in question? Where did the third person reference take place, eg in NYC or in C0lumbia C0unty? Etc.
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Response by financeguy
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Of course, your tenant has exclusive property rights to the apartment during the tenancy and has no obligation, moral or legal, to allow any showings at all at any time, unless the lease explicitly specifies otherwise.
Even if the lease permits showings, you are asking a large favor and invading the tenant's space. Be polite.
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Response by greensdale
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>unless the lease explicitly specifies otherwise.
The default is that they do.
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Response by thedavidrosen
almost 13 years ago
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Most leases have provisions for showing within 60 days of the end of the
Ease. If there is no proper lease and it's month to month then that would likely be in effect.
The ? Is however what's customary and good practice. You can do an Open House on Sunday and two during week and just be consistent to those times.
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I think that if you call it a "pad" then you can show it whenever.
We have two such situations right now.
We coordinate weekend Open Houses and ask if the tenants can at least "tidy up". Don't underestimate the importance of this. As much as you don't want to bother the tenants, it's also important not to show a messy unit.
You mentioned showing the unit while tenant is at work, but have you confirmed that's ok with them? Not everyone is comfortable the unit being shown when they're not home.
That said, we ask if it's ok for private showings on a need basis with notice. Since you're looking for max exposure, there will be potential buyers who can't make weekend Open Houses and want to see it on "X" day and @ "Y" time. If the tenant is a friend (and trusts you), as long as you're the one showing the unit, hopefully they won't mind.
Sounds like you are confusing friendship with the need to complete an important financial transaction. Seems you are being too good a friend here.
Why not just download this to your broker and explain the situation. He/she can then work out with the tenant (who if they are a good friend will do everything possible to help you sell the place/put himself on the street).
I would buy a gift card as a "thanks in advance for the dislocation" gift, but definitely ask for minimal showing cleanup -- I think asking tenant to make the bed, raise the blinds, and do the dishes before leaving for work is not too much of an imposition.
"clustering" the showings into a couple of days a week is nice too.
ali r.
DG Neary Realty
>Seems you are being too good a friend here.
Nonsense. It's not friendship. He has a paying tenant who is first and foremost entitled to use the apartment. Tenant has no obligation to keep the place tidy or even to allow last minute showings.
It is in your best interests to treat the tenant with respect notwithstanding your expectation of friendship. It sounds like the rate the tenant is paying is arms length and market if not better, so deal with him accordingly.
I agree with Ali, but you might pick up a cleaning bill too if you are going to ask for dishes to be done, etc. (or even if not, you may just want a professional deep cleaning, at your expense.)
Is gd really hb? gd sounds so helpful and congenial here
Greensdale and huntersburg are no-nonsense and generally tend to call out idiots of all stripes.
does that extend to pretentious assholes who refer to themselves in the third person?
Possibly, each situation has to be carefully evaluated. Is the person truly a pretentious asshole AND referring to himself in the third person? Or is the person not a pretentious asshole but still referring to himself in the third person? How frequently does this happen in context of the total level of contribution by the person in question? Where did the third person reference take place, eg in NYC or in C0lumbia C0unty? Etc.
Of course, your tenant has exclusive property rights to the apartment during the tenancy and has no obligation, moral or legal, to allow any showings at all at any time, unless the lease explicitly specifies otherwise.
Even if the lease permits showings, you are asking a large favor and invading the tenant's space. Be polite.
>unless the lease explicitly specifies otherwise.
The default is that they do.
Most leases have provisions for showing within 60 days of the end of the
Ease. If there is no proper lease and it's month to month then that would likely be in effect.
The ? Is however what's customary and good practice. You can do an Open House on Sunday and two during week and just be consistent to those times.