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Started by Aael921
almost 13 years ago
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Having spent many Sundays with brokers in the last year, I lmao at the scene where the broker tells Peggy how much her apartment will go up in value when the second avenue subway is finished (in 1967). I think that was a little joke for us New Yorkers.
Response by Triple_Zero
almost 13 years ago
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I saw that, and it was hilarious. When that show first started, I didn't like the winks and nods to the 21st century, and they've tapered off, but I did like that one.

Then again, wasn't the apartment $29,000, with her earning $19,000 or so per year? Now she's pretty well-paid for the time -- with the CPI being about 6-7 times what it was then, it's like earning $120k now -- but what can a $120k-earner buy for 1 1/2 years' salary on the UES today? She'd be going all the way up into the Bronx for that square footage nowadays.

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Response by greensdale
almost 13 years ago
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My mistake, I thought from the title of this thread it was about C0lumbia C0unty.

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 13 years ago
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Those were the good ol' days, before we were awash in Eurotrash.

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Response by deanc
almost 13 years ago
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BTW if you want a breakdown on the 9.09% return on buying the apartment versus the 427% for adjusted inflation checkout the spreadsheet and the comps I uploaded here

- https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151558362840138&set=a.10150672040435138.414336.372208810137&type=1

Basically based on the representative comps it looks like this apartment price doubled every 11 years in the example.

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Response by deanc
almost 13 years ago
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oops obviously that's 4.27% inflation.

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Response by alanhart
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Did inflation require two or three gut renovations in the intervening years?

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Response by alanhart
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More likely, though, Peggy would have sold at a loss in the early-mid 1970s.

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Response by lobster
almost 13 years ago
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Peggy's boyfriend mentioned that he heard the West 80's were a little dilapated, but safe and a cheaper
location. He didn't want to live where Peggy wanted to buy. I wonder if that's where she will end up in a future episode.

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Response by Riversider
almost 13 years ago
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We're only a few years from "The Panic in Needle Park" 1971

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNeN9ZU2CSM

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Response by jason10006
almost 13 years ago
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Peggy's salary would be $127,088.71 in 2013, to be precise, based on the CPI calculator. Another way might be to look at WAGE inflation rather than price inflation. From that POV, she probably made a lot more on a relative basis.

HH income won't work because HH sized have changed, so I looked at per capita GDP as a proxy.

In 1968, GDP per capita was $4,532.12, meaning she made 4.2X that figure. So by that measure, she could live IN AMERICA AS A WHOLE (not necessarily Manhattan) like someone who make $220k per year.

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Response by jason10006
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OR - a HOUSEHOLD only needed to make $19,850 per year to be in the top 5% of HOUSEHOLDS in the US in 1968. It would need to earn $186,000 today.

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Response by alanhart
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Spectral, as I said.

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