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The Rio: too many cell phone antenas close by!

Started by rowman3
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2012
I visited some apartment there and high floors are ok, the building is nice and very well maintain, staff seems very nice as well. But lower floors (below 10) are not so ok, main issue a real forest of cell phone antennas on the building right to the Rio, forest I mean around 15 or more... I have small kids and I will not take the risk. Can anyone tell me if there is a regulation with minimum distance for cell phone antennas in NYC? It seems to be a lot more than any other building in the city...
Response by Aaron2
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2012

What risk exactly? The electromagnetic or RF radiation? I would suggest you read up on the studies on this topic (and not just the NY Post scare articles) and assess whether the likelihood of this 'risk' is any greater than any of the other risks you face in NYC on a daily basis. Make your decision based on intelligence, not some fantasy of the dangers your little snowflakes are subjected to.

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Response by inonada
over 12 years ago
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There are a number of factually documented risks your kids will be exposed to in NYC. Higher risk of asthma, obesity from sugary drinks, and ill-adjustment to reality due to a combination of neurotic parents / over-indulged peers. I don't think there is any factual basis to the worries about RF radiation, but metal shields against radiation, so everyone should be OK as long as they are wearing tin foil helmets. Keeps out unwanted reading your brainwaves too.

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Response by bramstar
over 12 years ago
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How close are the antennae? Are they across the street? Across an air shaft? There are guidelines re: placement of cell towers/antennae, and the FCC recently decided to look into whether the policies need to be reassessed. (you can get info on this on the FCC website).

If you are at all worried, even if your fears are unfounded, why not look elsewhere?

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Response by bramstar
over 12 years ago
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^^I should clarify that the FCC plans to reassess its policy on RF emissions in general, not necessarily pertaining specifically to cell towers. ^^

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Response by NWT
over 12 years ago
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http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/radio-frequency-safety

Or take your astrologer's advice.

Besides the aluminum-lined helmet for when the kids are outdoors, the apartment should be frequently checked with a phone from every wireless provider, to be sure there're no signals. Nobody knows how little exposure is too much.

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Response by generalogoun
over 12 years ago
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Antennas are regulated (some would say "not regulated," even encouraged ) by federal legislation. There is little to nothing municipalities can do. Anyway, soon we will be seeing smaller versions of them at eye level on lampposts all around the city.

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Response by jason10006
over 12 years ago
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LOL inonada. Be afraid, be very afraid.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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Considering some posters here turn to eHow for financial and legal advice (including from eHow "contributors" that also write about wasps near mulch and wood) that they then subsequently share with SE as definitive information, it seems rather amazing that a poster with a concern for his or her kids would be mocked for such concern, rather than that poster simply being provided the honest information.

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Response by inonada
over 12 years ago
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1. From the FCC website that you didn't bother reading, you dope, because it wasn't simplified to eHow form:

Calculations corresponding to a “worst-case” situation (all transmitters operating simultaneously and continuously at the maximum licensed power) show that, in order to be exposed to RF levels near the FCC’s guidelines, an individual would essentially have to remain in the main transmitting beam and within a few feet of the antenna for several minutes or longer.

2. Metal is an effective shield against RF, both coming in (from cell towers) and going out (from brainwaves). You might find it ridiculous, but for a person who has fears of RF just 'cause, regardless of the levels, it is an effective shield.

3. What honest information did you provide?

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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>3. What honest information did you provide?

I didn't mock a parent who is concerned about the safety of his or her children.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 12 years ago
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really?

now?

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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Hi C0C0!

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Response by yikes
over 12 years ago
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rowman--

i too would err on the side of prudence re living with young chidren nearby cell-phone antennae, and als high voltage transnission facilities.look elsewhere.

to take caomfort that the fcc is looking out for your kids' health would be foolhardy.

i rec you look at regulation in coutries like sweden, where corps dont own and/or kill any profit-threatening regulation. you know, look at countries that are actual democracies.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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Jason what do you have to say to yikes?

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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Jason10006? inoitall?

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Response by sp21
over 12 years ago
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Electromagnetic radiation decreased with the inverse square of the distance. Meaning that the farther you are from the source, it becomes much less likely that you are affected.

That said, I would never want my kids to live next to a building with a lot of antenas. You can't override protective instinct with FCC assurances about safety.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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does Jason's retard helmet magnify or limit exposure to cell signals?

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Response by rowman3
over 12 years ago
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I like all this nice comments, probably most of this people would have written the same about asbestos 30 years ago ;-)

You should look at others studies from others countries and realize that it is not so obvious....open your eyes. At least some links btw bad sleep and antennas location...perhaps no more than that.
As reminder in the Usa most studies were finance by....cell phones companies...

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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Don't mind Jason or inoitall.

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Response by drdrd
over 12 years ago
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The honey bees have been in decline & cell towers was one of the theories I heard. The truth; I have no idea. If you think it's a risk, avoid it!

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Response by NYCMatt
over 12 years ago
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"At least some links btw bad sleep and antennas location"

There are plenty of studies backing this up. In fact, this is why you shouldn't have a cell phone anywhere in your bedroom while you're sleeping; the phone's constant back-and-forth EMFs between itself and the cell phone towers DO interrupt your brain waves during sleep.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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>There are plenty of studies backing this up. In fact, this is why you shouldn't have a cell phone anywhere in your bedroom while you're sleeping; the phone's constant back-and-forth EMFs between itself and the cell phone towers DO interrupt your brain waves during sleep.

Don't mind Jason or inoitall.

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Response by GraffitiGrammarian
over 12 years ago
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A ninth-grade science experiment shows some cause for concern:

http://www.mnn.com/health/healthy-spaces/blogs/student-science-experiment-finds-plants-wont-grow-near-wi-fi-router

While ninth-grade kids are likely to pursue this line of questioning, corporate-backed research facilities are not.

If you think there is any chance of risk, don't make your kids pay the price later on.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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>A ninth-grade science experiment shows some cause for concern:

I suspect Jason the Retard didn't have the intellect to do 9th grade science experiments. And inoitall, he probably did, but it takes a special type to be anti-mother and anti-children.

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Response by Truth
over 12 years ago
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'' Well I would not give you false hope,
on this strange and mournful day
the mother and child reunion
is only a moment way..."

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Response by jrollend
over 10 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2012

looks like most of the people (or maybe paid by cell phone industry marketers?) have mental problems related to cell radiation side effects. Since cell phones became part of our lives some are scare to death is somebody touches the issue and overreact (read above).

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