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Started by greensdale
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Eliot Spitzer to Seek Ballot Spot in New York City Comptroller Race Spitzer Seeks Ballot for City Comptroller’s Race By MICHAEL BARBARO and DAVID W. CHEN Published: July 7, 2013 Eliot Spitzer, who resigned as governor of New York five years ago amid a prostitution scandal, is re-entering political life, with a run for the citywide office of comptroller and a hope that voters have forgiven him his... [more]
Response by Riversider
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Seeing Wiener ahead in the polls must have emboldened him.

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Response by NYCMatt
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Spitzer is fabulous.

He never should have resigned as governor.

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Response by greensdale
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>He never should have resigned as governor.

But he did.

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Response by NYCMatt
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But he shouldn't have.

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Response by wavedeva
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Mmm,really?! Oh yes he should have resigned. Let's see:
-- Spent $80,000 on prostitutes across state lines.
-- Withdrew large sums of cash to pay for said prostitutes, thereby requiring banks to flag his transactions and trigger an FBI investigation (he was an AG and wasn't aware of this law?).
-- While AG prosecuted people and organizations for prostitution while simultaneously supporting prostitutes and the industry.
-- Conducted this activity after taking oaths as Attorney General and as Governor that he would uphold the law.

The illegality, arrogance, and stupidity of these actions tell me not to vote for Spitzer. A NYT commenter wrote that nurses lose their licenses if they engage in prostitution which is pretty harsh. And I would be remiss if I left out this comment from a Midwesterner, Charles Michener on the matter:
"'Asking forgiveness' - please. Anyone who 'asks' the general public for 'forgiveness' through a New York Times reporter should be automatically barred from serious public life. Are New Yorkers so inured to this sort of narcissistic grandstanding (viz. Anthony Weiner) that they're prepared to take Spitzer at face value? What matters here is not the man's addiction to prostitutes but whether his character, temperament and probity qualify him to oversee the finances of the immensely complex city of New York. On the basis of his previous record of abusive behavior in his role as prosecutor and governor and in his dealings with the press, his political opponents and his wife, I would say no. A desire for personal and professional redemption, not to mention "name recognition," is not a qualification for managing the city's budget, however well it may work for TV commentators. Look elsewhere, New Yorkers."

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Response by NYCMatt
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"-- Spent $80,000 on prostitutes across state lines.
-- Withdrew large sums of cash to pay for said prostitutes, thereby requiring banks to flag his transactions and trigger an FBI investigation (he was an AG and wasn't aware of this law?).
-- While AG prosecuted people and organizations for prostitution while simultaneously supporting prostitutes and the industry.
-- Conducted this activity after taking oaths as Attorney General and as Governor that he would uphold the law."

****

It's a bad and stupid law.

Good people don't obey bad laws. Nor should they "uphold" them, either.

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Response by wavedeva
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@NYCMatt
Please. If "It's a bad and stupid law." why didn't he try and repeal it? That's what good people do.

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Response by NYCMatt
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Because bad laws don't get repealed until enough good people start breaking them.

It's called civil disobedience.

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Response by rangersfan
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hahaha, that is priceless. it never occurred to me that spitzer was engaged in civil disobedience for our common good! sprinting to the ballot box....

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Response by greensdale
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His improper activities began prior to his governorship, so if he felt that his activities warranted resignation as he ultimately did, then he should have not run in the first place and cheated the people of the State of New York out of a qualified, dedicated leader.

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Response by Riversider
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Spitzer was a fantastic A.G. before screwing up as governor

If we can bring back Mark Sanford & Anthony Wiener from the dead, then certainly Spitzer who did a great job prosecuting the bad men, should be given a shot.

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Response by greensdale
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>Spitzer was a fantastic A.G. before screwing up as governor

What was so fantastic about him?

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Response by Riversider
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For one AIG sideletters and fake reinsurance agreements.

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Response by greensdale
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Oh, that was so important to the State of New York

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Response by Riversider
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It was. New York has jurisdiction.

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Response by greensdale
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Jurisdiction means simply jurisdiction. It does not mean important.

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Response by LICComment
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Spitzer did some good as AG before overreaching. As Governor he was awful and a disgrace. In addition to his use of prostitutes, he blew out the budget with wild overspending and he unlawfully used the state police for his own personal political purposes.

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Response by greensdale
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You think his use of prostitutes began first when he became governor?

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Response by GraffitiGrammarian
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We shouldn't be persecuting people for victimless sex "crimes." People have sex, public figures have sex, and it's about time Americans got over their prudishness.

Good for Spitzer for jumping back in. It gives me hope that Americans might be close to growing up. And NYCMatt is correct -- Spitzer was a great AG.

Not to mention that he is heir to a big real estate fortune. Real estate fans should like him.

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Response by greensdale
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I don't care about his prostitution issues. But he took the top office in the State of New York and made a mockery of it. He wasted the opportunity for the people to elect someone who could hold the position and execute its duties for a full term that we expected and were entitled to. He wasted countless dollars on his vanity election as these activities for which he resigned were ongoing prior to him running. I put him in the same selfish waste of time category as Sarah Palin in Alaska.

That he was a top law enforcement official in NY doing illegal activities is a secondary issue. And the fact that it is prostitution is for me a tertiary issue.

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Response by GraffitiGrammarian
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I understand, Greensdale. But he has a certain kind of sexual preference, and he's human, so he's going to pursue that preference. And whether we make it legal or illegal is not going to change that.

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Response by greensdale
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He resigned on his own accord, and insisted he broke no laws. He was never charged with a crime.

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Response by Riversider
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Couldn't care less about a candidate's personal life. With Mark Sanford it only became an issue because he left the state and didn't leave forwarding info in case of state emergency, with Clinton it only became an issue because he perjured himself to congress, and Weiner for lying on TV about it for days.

Fact is Spitzer acted effectively as A.G. and I think he could do the same as comptroller auditing the city budget and its funds. I see the challenges as similar to what he faced when being A.G.

And as far as Albany goes, our capital is corrupt, the state legislature is a joke and everyone in politics or associated with politics knows it.

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Response by marco_m
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isn't one of his hookers running against him??

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Response by greensdale
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Yes

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Response by rangersfan
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it just keeps getting better and better...

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Response by greensdale
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Response by wavedeva
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Response by Fairway
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I would still vote for him in an election against a Republican, but not in a primary and I may vote in the primary to vote against him

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Response by greensdale
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You should always vote in your primary.

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Response by Riversider
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This week Eliot Spitzer re-emerged as what he was five years ago: depending on how you look at him, either the most effective or the most dangerous politician in the US. Well before the financial crisis of 2008, New Yorkers liked his dogged prosecutions of those he saw as overpaid bankers and double-dealing insurance brokers.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/b24ba7ca-ea20-11e2-913c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2YrxYeK2j

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Response by greensdale
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Would Eliot Spitzer meet the SEC qualifications to be a broker, financial advisor, etc / work on Wall Street? I dont think so. Why would we hire a dishonest man to manage billions for the City?

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Response by caonima
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good for the public

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Response by Riversider
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Reuters) - New York City mayoral candidate Anthony Weiner said on Tuesday he will stay in the race despite admitting he sent newly revealed sexually explicit online chats and photos even after he resigned from Congress.

Weiner issued a statement after a gossip website called The Dirty published an interview with an anonymous woman who claimed she had an online relationship with him between July and November 2012.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/23/us-usa-politics-weiner-idUSBRE96M0X320130723

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/23/19640828-anthony-weiner-admits-sexting-continued-after-2011-resignation-from-congress

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Response by Riversider
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Seems Anthony Weiner decided to stop sexting about the time he decided to run for Mayor. He apparently didn't think he needed to come clean about his sexting post resignation from congress when he announced his mayoral candidacy. This guy has no credibility. What a putz.

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Response by huntersburg
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The Carlos Danger name of River Sider is Jaime Violence.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/low_concept/2013/07/carlos_danger_name_generator_use_our_widget_to_get_a_name_like_anthony_weiner.html
Hunters Burg translates to Raul Violence (we are related??), and Jason10006 is Stuttering Retardo.

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