It would be interesting if Warren Wilhelm (Bill D's original name) raised taxes on higher earners such that NYC becomes a town only of wealthy non-residents who don't have to pay income taxes, and the poor.
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Their endorsements didn't seem to affect the polling yet. Only Q poll is out. We'll see what the other ones say. I just don't want another Bloomberg.
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I'm voting for Dante!
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"It would be interesting if Warren Wilhelm (Bill D's original name) raised taxes on higher earners such that NYC becomes a town only of wealthy non-residents who don't have to pay income taxes, and the poor."
You do realize that you can raise millions by just making ultra-high end PROPERTY taxes the same rate as 95% of New Yorkers' property taxes, right? Which would hit out of towners. You can also do what Florida does, and tax out of state homeowners more than in-state ones. In the UK they have an extra tax for rich homeowners.
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I do realize or Billy dB does realize? Because that's not what he says he will do.
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Keep the punches coming, Mr. Lhota
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October 21, 2013 | 10:34pm
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Good for Joe Lhota. When the GOP candidate for mayor released the first ad to hit his Democratic rival hard — for policies that would undermine the cops’ success in driving crime down to levels that are the envy of every other big city in America — Bill de Blasio complained it was “divisive” and “inappropriate.”
But Lhota hasn’t backed down, and that’s a good thing. It will make for an even better mayoral debate if Lhota follows up tonight by turning the tables on de Blasio’s preferred tactic in the first debate, which was to focus on Lhota’s “ideology.”
If de Blasio tries that again, Lhota would do well to turn the tables by highlighting the connection between de Blasio’s ideology and, say, his approach to taxes. The combined top city and state income-tax rate here is 12.7 percent. Only California’s is higher, at 13.3 percent.
Every day these high rates are sending more of our tax base to more business-friendly locales. And what is de Blasio’s answer? To jack them up even higher. Indeed, Joe might want to ask de Blasio if there’s any point in his ideology where a liberal can say taxes are too high.
Or take spending. New York spends more than any other city in America. We’re a big city, of course, but we spend more proportionately, too. It would be worth asking de Blasio if he thinks we get good value for it.
Mayor Bloomberg points out that New York City now spends more for pensions each year than for its operating budgets for the police, fire and sanitation departments combined. So again, it would be worth asking de Blasio to explain why in his ideology this is not enough.
At its core, de Blasio’s Tale of Two Cities is a government-heavy approach that will tax more, spend more and regulate more. That’s an ideology, too.
And we’re not surprised that de Blasio would rather complain about his rival’s imagined ties to the Tea Party than explain why an ideology that has bankrupted so many other cities will somehow work in New York.
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Tonight's debate was interesting. It was mostly De bla trying to paint Lhota into the Tea-Party picture.
De Bla will raise property taxes, as Jo-Loho predicted.
As with many fiercely competitive primaries, the winner was pushed to the extreme. De Blasio is no exception, he simply promised more to more people than his competition. Just as he exploits his children to win an election I expect zero compunction with treating NYC treated like a piggy bank to pay out on election promises.
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>It would be interesting if Warren Wilhelm (Bill D's original name) raised taxes on higher earners such that NYC becomes a town only of wealthy non-residents who don't have to pay income taxes, and the poor.
Unless he's running for governor too, he cant raise taxes. Of course the base he's pandering to doesnt realize that.
I do find it quite comical he thrusts his biracial kids into commercials and then starts whining about race cards.
Most if not all political candidates keep their kids out of the public eye and the press is expected to reciprocate and keep hands off.
De Blasio has installed his kids as fair game for public consumption. Dont cry later when SNL has them making out with each other in the backseat of a Coupe with spinning rims.
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truthskr: How true.
The commercials are ridiculous, even if his kids weren't biracial.
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Yes, but de Blasio will raise taxes on productive NYers to pay for parents who can't keep it in their pants.
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fieldschester: De Bla will call it: "The Zipper Tax".
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"The Zipper Tax" -- WHAT A RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, at least he doesn't have to worry about the former hippy procreating.
But more to the point, the only tax increase proposal I've seen from his camp is a very small one on high income earners to provide early childhood education. I'm all for that. And I'm going to pay for it, "truth" won't lose a cent.
Are people here really so racist as to make judgments and create false sensationalism because his kids are bi-racial? Seriously, people, if he didn't bring out his family he'd be accused of all sorts of bias. You can't have it both ways, although narrow-minded bigots often try.
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"Are people here really so racist as to make judgments and create false sensationalism because his kids are bi-racial?"
Is that really what you come away with from comments here? The point is it's clear if his kids looked closer to Bill than to his wife, they wouldnt be in any commercials just like every other politician.
Unfortunately, modern fringe liberalism does exactly that, tries to have it both ways.
It's just AS ugly as redneck protectionism.
BTW, my father is fairly dark, he is egyptian, which if you look on a map, is in Africa.
My mother, is a ghostly white european.
As both are jewish I fully carry the self loathing guilt gene, yet I don't see where the bigotry is here. All I see is politics as usual, from both sides.
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We disagree.
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Politicians use their families when it suits them. One of deB's reasons for using his is for the racial benefit. If his son were Tagg or Tripp or Trapp or Toggle or Tuff, they wouldn't be there and wouldn't be speaking about Stop and Frisk.
But you look at Lhota's ad about the 70s crime and there is nothing racial whatsoever but yet somehow he is accused of being racially divisive.
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>But more to the point, the only tax increase proposal I've seen from his camp is a very small one on high income earners to provide early childhood education. I'm all for that. And I'm going to pay for it, "truth" won't lose a cent.
Cradle to Grave government.
But NY has a lot to lose. If NYC taxes go up .5%, it doesn't take a large percentage of wealthy NYers to leave for PA or TX or FL to make NYS and NYC a net loser in this race for higher taxes.
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huntersburg: I can see from her comment^^ that "aboutready" is obsessed with my life, as usual.
She's "going to pay for it."?! She's a bored, frustrated, unemployable alkie housewife. She wants us all to know that her husband is a "high income earner".
"truth" won't lose a cent." While she was home posting that comment, I was out that night at various social events and parties. Many of the other people also invited are "high income earners": Politicians, writers, journalists, restaurateurs, lawyers. Some invitees don't earn as much money, yet they were invited.
aboutready was not invited. Nobody knows her nor do they care about a bored, frustrated, unemployable alkie housewife posting comments on se.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/bill-de-blasio-surges-double-digit-lead-mayoral-primary-article-1.1439527
It would be interesting if Warren Wilhelm (Bill D's original name) raised taxes on higher earners such that NYC becomes a town only of wealthy non-residents who don't have to pay income taxes, and the poor.
Their endorsements didn't seem to affect the polling yet. Only Q poll is out. We'll see what the other ones say. I just don't want another Bloomberg.
I'm voting for Dante!
"It would be interesting if Warren Wilhelm (Bill D's original name) raised taxes on higher earners such that NYC becomes a town only of wealthy non-residents who don't have to pay income taxes, and the poor."
You do realize that you can raise millions by just making ultra-high end PROPERTY taxes the same rate as 95% of New Yorkers' property taxes, right? Which would hit out of towners. You can also do what Florida does, and tax out of state homeowners more than in-state ones. In the UK they have an extra tax for rich homeowners.
I do realize or Billy dB does realize? Because that's not what he says he will do.
Keep the punches coming, Mr. Lhota
By Post Editorial Board
October 21, 2013 | 10:34pm
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Good for Joe Lhota. When the GOP candidate for mayor released the first ad to hit his Democratic rival hard — for policies that would undermine the cops’ success in driving crime down to levels that are the envy of every other big city in America — Bill de Blasio complained it was “divisive” and “inappropriate.”
But Lhota hasn’t backed down, and that’s a good thing. It will make for an even better mayoral debate if Lhota follows up tonight by turning the tables on de Blasio’s preferred tactic in the first debate, which was to focus on Lhota’s “ideology.”
If de Blasio tries that again, Lhota would do well to turn the tables by highlighting the connection between de Blasio’s ideology and, say, his approach to taxes. The combined top city and state income-tax rate here is 12.7 percent. Only California’s is higher, at 13.3 percent.
Every day these high rates are sending more of our tax base to more business-friendly locales. And what is de Blasio’s answer? To jack them up even higher. Indeed, Joe might want to ask de Blasio if there’s any point in his ideology where a liberal can say taxes are too high.
Or take spending. New York spends more than any other city in America. We’re a big city, of course, but we spend more proportionately, too. It would be worth asking de Blasio if he thinks we get good value for it.
Mayor Bloomberg points out that New York City now spends more for pensions each year than for its operating budgets for the police, fire and sanitation departments combined. So again, it would be worth asking de Blasio to explain why in his ideology this is not enough.
At its core, de Blasio’s Tale of Two Cities is a government-heavy approach that will tax more, spend more and regulate more. That’s an ideology, too.
And we’re not surprised that de Blasio would rather complain about his rival’s imagined ties to the Tea Party than explain why an ideology that has bankrupted so many other cities will somehow work in New York.
Tonight's debate was interesting. It was mostly De bla trying to paint Lhota into the Tea-Party picture.
De Bla will raise property taxes, as Jo-Loho predicted.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2013/10/bill-de-blasios-interracial-relationship-shocked-his-mom
As with many fiercely competitive primaries, the winner was pushed to the extreme. De Blasio is no exception, he simply promised more to more people than his competition. Just as he exploits his children to win an election I expect zero compunction with treating NYC treated like a piggy bank to pay out on election promises.
>It would be interesting if Warren Wilhelm (Bill D's original name) raised taxes on higher earners such that NYC becomes a town only of wealthy non-residents who don't have to pay income taxes, and the poor.
Unless he's running for governor too, he cant raise taxes. Of course the base he's pandering to doesnt realize that.
I do find it quite comical he thrusts his biracial kids into commercials and then starts whining about race cards.
Most if not all political candidates keep their kids out of the public eye and the press is expected to reciprocate and keep hands off.
De Blasio has installed his kids as fair game for public consumption. Dont cry later when SNL has them making out with each other in the backseat of a Coupe with spinning rims.
truthskr: How true.
The commercials are ridiculous, even if his kids weren't biracial.
Yes, but de Blasio will raise taxes on productive NYers to pay for parents who can't keep it in their pants.
fieldschester: De Bla will call it: "The Zipper Tax".
"The Zipper Tax" -- WHAT A RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, at least he doesn't have to worry about the former hippy procreating.
But more to the point, the only tax increase proposal I've seen from his camp is a very small one on high income earners to provide early childhood education. I'm all for that. And I'm going to pay for it, "truth" won't lose a cent.
Are people here really so racist as to make judgments and create false sensationalism because his kids are bi-racial? Seriously, people, if he didn't bring out his family he'd be accused of all sorts of bias. You can't have it both ways, although narrow-minded bigots often try.
"Are people here really so racist as to make judgments and create false sensationalism because his kids are bi-racial?"
Is that really what you come away with from comments here? The point is it's clear if his kids looked closer to Bill than to his wife, they wouldnt be in any commercials just like every other politician.
Unfortunately, modern fringe liberalism does exactly that, tries to have it both ways.
It's just AS ugly as redneck protectionism.
BTW, my father is fairly dark, he is egyptian, which if you look on a map, is in Africa.
My mother, is a ghostly white european.
As both are jewish I fully carry the self loathing guilt gene, yet I don't see where the bigotry is here. All I see is politics as usual, from both sides.
We disagree.
Politicians use their families when it suits them. One of deB's reasons for using his is for the racial benefit. If his son were Tagg or Tripp or Trapp or Toggle or Tuff, they wouldn't be there and wouldn't be speaking about Stop and Frisk.
But you look at Lhota's ad about the 70s crime and there is nothing racial whatsoever but yet somehow he is accused of being racially divisive.
>But more to the point, the only tax increase proposal I've seen from his camp is a very small one on high income earners to provide early childhood education. I'm all for that. And I'm going to pay for it, "truth" won't lose a cent.
Cradle to Grave government.
But NY has a lot to lose. If NYC taxes go up .5%, it doesn't take a large percentage of wealthy NYers to leave for PA or TX or FL to make NYS and NYC a net loser in this race for higher taxes.
huntersburg: I can see from her comment^^ that "aboutready" is obsessed with my life, as usual.
She's "going to pay for it."?! She's a bored, frustrated, unemployable alkie housewife. She wants us all to know that her husband is a "high income earner".
"truth" won't lose a cent." While she was home posting that comment, I was out that night at various social events and parties. Many of the other people also invited are "high income earners": Politicians, writers, journalists, restaurateurs, lawyers. Some invitees don't earn as much money, yet they were invited.
aboutready was not invited. Nobody knows her nor do they care about a bored, frustrated, unemployable alkie housewife posting comments on se.
Why Mayor de Blasio Is Facing So Many Investigations: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/29/nyregion/the-de-blasio-inquiries-a-recap-and-whats-next.html