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Appraiser for refinancing

Started by george12
over 12 years ago
Posts: 64
Member since: Dec 2009
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We bought our house in Brooklyn last February (went into contract last October) for $1M. Since we purchased our house, there have been a number of sales of comparable properties in the immediate area for approximately $1.2M to $1.7M. We are now trying to re-finance and take cash out; the bank's appraiser just appraised our house for $1M using comparables that closed back in January and February while there have been over 10 properties similar to ours that closed in the past 2 months. I am challenging the appraisal based on the fact that the appraiser failed to use the most comparable and most recent sales in his appraisal. Does anyone have experience challenging the appraisal and what was the outcome? Thank you in advance.
Response by ab_11218
over 12 years ago
Posts: 2017
Member since: May 2009

go to a different bank or better yet, to a mortgage broker who has a few banks. if an appraisal comes in too low, they can order another one. the only thing is that they can't hand pick an appraiser. at some point, you have to be able to find a person with a brain who does appraisals.

most are complete idiots. the smart ones found other jobs after the collapse.

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Response by alanhart
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

Doesn't your lender have a seasoning requirement anyway? Like as in comps can only be used beginning a year after your actual closing date?

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Response by steveF
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

george12...using comps from 6 months ago is idiotic. Appraisers need to completely overhaul their appraisal procedures. Sucks for the banks as they lose alot of revenue because of this.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

George, Are you willing to pay much higher rates to refi?

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Response by lad
over 12 years ago
Posts: 707
Member since: Apr 2009

All of the refinance appraisals in my building have been extremely conservative.

We had a unit appraise for $420k for a refinance in 2012. This year, the same unit (with no improvements) was listed at $600k, had multiple offers, and is closing for $630k. Appraisal came in at selling price.

Four other refinanced units in the building have all appraised for "fire sale" prices so out of line with actual market conditions that people in the building would buy and annex the units if the owners put them on the market for the refinance appraisal price.

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Response by ph41
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2008

Actually Alan, I was just told by a mortgage broker that comps OVER 6 months old CANNOT be used in an appraisal.

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Response by Argo123
over 12 years ago
Posts: 44
Member since: Jan 2013

Thank you everyone for all the comments. I contacted another appraiser that I had used in the past and he also believes using comparables that are 8 or 9 months old is somewhat crazy, specially in this market.
I also spoke with the bank and provided them a detailed letter challenging the appraisal; the bank agreed to forward the letter to the appraisal firm and to also order another appraisal through another firm. I will keep everyone post on how everything turns out.

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