filming rates
Started by shahvi23
about 12 years ago
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Does anyone know what is a reasonable rate to charge a film crew to use a three bedroom apartment in williamsburg for shooting?
How long? Double the market rate. If the bedroom rents for $5000. Charge $10k.
Film rates are based on per number of days they will use and the extent of their use (how disruptive they will be) and finally how valuable the unit is and how significant the film project. A major motion picture can easily be like 3-5k per day and go all the way up to 20k per day, a smaller feature maybe $ 500 or $ 1000 per day with a 3,500 or 4,500 minimum.
They say the prep is going to be two days, the shoot two days, and wrap up one day. Thanks again for advice.
This is entirely dependant on practically every variable you can imagine. What they will be doing, how they will be doing it, location of the property, size/value of the property, what spaces they will be using within the property and outside of it, what sort of disruption it will cause to you, the neighbors, the co-op, etc., how much they will have to move or "dress," if they need anything special done (special effects, anything being broken, etc.), what they will using in the property (if anything) that doesn't belong to them (that belongs to you), and other things. A general rule of thumb is the bigger the production, the more you will get. Beyond that, nothing is set. Still, don't expect $10K a day for your average 600 square foot 1br.
Oh yes, and you may get less for prep and wrap days than for shoot days.
I've worked in film and tv for decades and I would never rent my space for a shoot unless I were desperate for the money. Bottom line is the location manager will promise you anything to get the location the director wants. And then after the crew clogs your toilets by flushing who knows what, sets lights on your most prized piece of furniture, mars your walls and scratches your floor, the production company disappears.
Sure they promise to return everything to the state they found it in, but it isn't in the budget. And don't even try to follow up. Once the production is over, the office closes down and everyone disperses to the next gig. Even if it's a big studio movie, the individual productions are separate companies. Your only protection is if you allow a shoot from an ongoing show - maybe.
I've worked in film and tv for decades and have shot in at least 150 homes and have never damaged anything of note. I have also heard horror stories. You should require a security deposit of a few thousand. This should not surprise them and they pay them regularly when they rent gear and props and other locations. Rates are completely arbitrary and are driven by one thing: the budget. So there is no hard answer for this. My friend gets $53,000 a day when crews shoot in his amazing penthouse apartment. I also paid a guy $150 to use his Brooklyn living room for a day. One thing you need is for them to name you on their insurance. If they cannot or wont do it, you cannot in good faith, allow this to go on. Build and strike days are generally paid at 2/3 or 3/4 of a shoot day. A shoot day is 10 hours, firm. A low priced mediocre studio in manhattan for an empty room is going to start at $5000 a day so, negotiate away. But getting some low-ball number like $1000 for it all, or $500 a day or whatever is not to be taken seriously. Also if they are calling it "prep" and "wrap" then you are likely talking to a small company or someone young. Don't let the lure of easy money suck you in. Make sure it is enough for you to feel comfortable. $10k seems like a nice place to play with. I would ask for their budget and see what they offer then laugh and tell them you will call them back.
The terms "prep" and "wrap" are industry standard terms. "Build" and "strike" terms are used also, but are derived from more of a theater setting. Also, different people use the terms that better suits their jobs, generally (a construction coordinator might use the term "build" while a set dresser might use the term "prep.").
Shoot days, while billed at 8 or 10 hours, rarely ever actually last that long. A standard shooting day is 12 hours give or take an hour, but 14 and 15 hour days are common. This is why you see productions filming well into the night, after everyone is home from work, when they started at 7am. You can bill at 10 hours as a base, then overtime is incurred after that.
Always get a contract and make sure insurance is in place beforehand. Any standard, even somewhat large production has these. Insurance of 1 million is required anyway by the Mayor's Office of Film and Television. A deposit is also a very good idea.
Any producer or UPM paying 5 grand for a studio in Manhattan as his/her starting price is either a newbie or crap at their job.
We have a Williamsburg location we want to market for film and photo shoots. Great rooftop with panoramic views of Manhattan, outdoor spaces with old world Brooklyn grit mixed with the new. How does one go about Marketing a building and location to film and photo shoots?
Mandy.com is one place, although it caters to more of the independent/low-budget/non-union crowd. Still, it might be a way to make some extra cash.Other than that, the trades are always fine to list in. But really, nothing is better than having a few location scouts or ALMs as friends.
Go for it, but I gotta say, everybody in NY thinks "THEIR" place is special.
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