NYP: Red Hook latest Brooklyn home trend

Interesting area, looked at buying there over 10 years ago. Transportation is an issue for daily communters, but the frozen key lime pie ain't bad.

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Keith Burkhardt
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i am still amazed how that area can bubble so much. it's isolated from everything by the highway. most of the area is covered in projects. the parks either have illegals playing soccer or drug dealers getting high in them. the bus runs rarely and getting to the train is a hell of a walk, more like a drive or bike ride. it's guaranteed to get flooded if it rains too hard, forget about Sandy like storm.

some people just want to be close to Home Depot, Fairway and IKEA, i guess. i would go to Gowanus sooner than that armpit of brooklyn.

also red hook is a flood zone

Maybe this home priced due to artist renovation? Also, it remains to see what price is actually sells vs listing

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I go to Red Hook regularly, I was there today. The buses run often, there are two. You haven't been there lately ab. There's a ferry from Ikea to Manhattan. I bike all over, they have an amazing pool there.

Red Hook is a charming area, in my view, with wonderful places to eat and drink, art galleries, gardening shops; Red Hook Winery and the chocolate maker give tours. Hope and Anchor and the elevated crab restaurant are just two places worth a trip. I've biked most of it, I have yet to see any obvious criminal behavior.

As far as flooding, there was serious flooding in Gowanus in Sandy and I've spoken to several musicians who lost tons of pricey gear. Flood Music Studios are so named because of the vulnerability of Gowanus. Red Hook floods just as bad or worse, but DUMBO and Williamsburg have many very vulnerable areas according to the FEMA maps.

does the ferry carry your packages?

You either get Red Hook or you don't. It's in NYC, but also feels like its own small town. There's a camaraderie of people who like this little out of the way place. And just like the UES isn't for everyone, Red Hook has its own niche.

I love RedHook it is quaint and I know our family will love living there. We could not buy in Red Hook simply because it is in a major flood zone area. Flooding may not happen this or next year, but with global warming I am not sure that it won't get flooded again.

"with global warming..."

I believe it is now referred to as climate change.

i stand corrected. they fixed the bus service, but taking a bus to the train will cost you well over an hour to get into midtown. that's the same as NJ.

as with the safety, you must be biking around during the day when everyone in the projects are sleeping.

with raising the family.... hell no. kids can't play in the park safely. schools... wait you can't call them schools. imbecile centers is more like it.

so lets take the inconvenient location for transport, horrid schools, can't walk around at night, "quaint" feel, plenty of flooding and you end up with an enclave for artists and musicians. reminds me of bad parts of bed sty and bushwick. those hoods just have better transportation options.

Is Red Hook less safe than Bed-Stuy or Bushwich? I think they are about the same aren't they?

they are. that's the point. why would you end up in an extreme flood zone with no transportation paying the same amount in iffy neighborhoods.

yes you'll get flooded in gowanus, but the schools are better, transportation is better and you're between 2 great neighborhoods.

Red Hook makes me think of the Red Dragon, Westies wannabees, and starter pistols.

Ricky Slade:
"What are you an odds maker? You're going to work everyone through this thing here? Let me tell you something, f*cko, if that motherf*cker right there don't take that knife away from my friend's neck, I'll use all six shots to make sure you're dead. Now do you believe it? Do you f*cking believe it?"

Ww: His gun is a f*cking starter pistol! I can see the red plug in your f*cking barrel!

Ricky Slade: Listen to me, I intentionally make this gun look that way because I am smart."

why not consider upper manhattan?

I don't live in Red Hook but I have been a few times, and while I thought it was quite sparsely populated, it was also a pretty relaxing and fun few visits. Being near the water there is amazing -- extremely relaxing. It is like being on Long Island. (Hold your hurricane jokes, of course being near the water during the next superstorm would be terrifying.) It is an artistic, indie kind of place... also somewhere you can buy a house for the price of a small Manhattan condo, or maybe a medium sized upper manhattan condo.

I actually think it's safer than Bed Stuy and Bushwick, but given how quickly those two neighborhoods are gentrifying, they are becoming safer all the time - probably at a faster rate than Red Hook.

As for Gowonus vs. Red Hook, there are so many differences. What Ab is saying about the schools are better, etc... yes, sure, the schools are better IF you are zoned for PS 38 or 32 or maybe 261 -- which are generally known as schools for the surrounding areas (BoCoCa etc). Gowonus is really up and coming a la Williamsburg from 10 years ago. It is near two good neighborhoods. It is also on a toxic canal that the NY times reported "will never be free of taint" and in which swimming will probably never be possible. So, while Red Hook is more likely to be flooded in a future storm, at least it will not be toxic sludge in your foyer.

What I don't get is all the hate here...Ab referring to "illegals playing soccer" in the parks and "projects all over." So, then don't live there. Nobody is forcing you to do that. Clearly people want to, otherwise the prices would not be going up. These purchases are not by investors that are flooding the Bed Study and Bushwick Markets. Not everyone bases their housing choices on how long it takes to get to midtown Manhattan (I, for one, could care less because I'm only traveling uptown and downtown). Living in a flood zone is not my cup of tea, just like I wouldn't want to live in Florida for the hurricanes or LA for the earthquakes. But I did live in Manhattan for 15 years, during most of which Manhattan was being targeted for a terrorist attack. For many people, Red Hook is fun and charming and a decent alternatives to other areas (including upper manhattan).

I forgot to mention Red Hook Lobster Pound, hands down the best casual lobster dinner outside of Maine and certainly in all of NYC, and Baked, which is the best home style bake shop I have ever met. And, they're located near each other.

Because there is always abundant parking in Red Hook, and by that I mean you have your choice of 10 parking spots, we have parked our car overnight for days at a time when we can't find parking closer to home. You only have to move the car once a week. I have never seen smash and grab evidence in Red Hook such as I have seen recently while biking on Kent Ave/Greenway in Williamsburg.

What they need is Citibikes.

ab=bigot/imbecile

city bike would in fact be excellent for red hook.
non-starter for me is the flood potential.
love the neighborhood: good fork, ft defiance, that nursery. nice village feel.