Moving this gas line

If nothing else, you could probably build a shallow wall under the window to contain the gas pipe as it makes its way to the other side. If radiator is an issue, then a soffit over the window instead.

Nice-looking apartment, btw!

agreed--nice layout.
be careful re moving gasline, tho. I believe you need a permit, and some bldgs get anxious about branching gas to another wall than that the riser is on.

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Thanks all. Definitely will see about contractor and permits and all of your advice if we decide to go forward and they go forward with us.

that's approx 10 ft span with a few elbows. not only would be rather expensive, it would be somewhat dangerous as any of those elbows can spring a leak.

i am also not seeing what moving the stove would "buy you" in terms of layout.

Open kitchen?

I'm more concerned that the only way to enter the master bedroom suite is through the window.

It's not dangerous at all if it is done properly. Iron pipe and fittings don't just burst open at random, especially not with residential natural gas that is is regulated to under 1 psi.

The cost of DOB review, pulling a permit and having a licensed plumber reroute the line and do a pressure test is a legitimate concern. The risk of an elbow springing a leak is not.

@AB, the kitchen is very small, but still doesn't have exactly everything I want. I would like to add a dishwasher into the mix (none exists) and some additional counterspace. I think the dishwasher would obviously need to be on the same side as the sink right? I would close off one entrance to the kitchen and insert the dishwasher where the former entryway was. But I also want to take down the wall between the kitchen and dining room and only make it a half wall. So I can only have appliances on that wall (West half wall) that are waist high. That excludes the fridge, which I would love to move into the current stove space.

Make sense? In my head, it buys more function and convenience. I hate washing dishes haha. Sorry for the rambling.

what flarf says.

The building gas supply infrastructure has elbows/fittings galore, all over the place. DUH There is no danger in well-installed standard gas plumbing, and any licensed plumber is capable of moving a gas line without causing danger. There are millions of miles of such plumbing/fittings installed throughout the city.

The issue is with permits, and building requirements, which can be challenging. Before you do anything re this that you wouldnt do if you cant move that stove, chk out the building and permit issues.

moving plumbing and gas away from risers is often resisted in coop bldgs, and always requires permits.

heatheresq my husband and I had the same concern when we were moving the stove. ultimately the contractor just built a very low box like covering around the line (goes under window to the other side) such that it blends into the wall and just looks like molding. Every building is different and in our case (UWS co op) the super, who used to be a contractor and who the board trusts to make these calls, said there was no need get permits, and he oversaw the work, to make sure it was done well. It gets counted w/ all plumbing work (disconnecting appliances/reconnecting etc) and doesn't move the needle much.

In terms of placement of appliances remember that refrigerators need a water connection also if you want an automatic ice maker. But your stove abuts the tub in the bathroom, so don't assume you don't have access to a water line there. You might want to think about a relatively small sink where the current one is, with a d/w next to it and then removing the rest of that wall to create an alternative entrance and then using the empty wall for additional space.

Haha, you said abuts.

alanhart you are my new best friend. I am a ninja and I prefer to enter through difficult means.

so close the door into the bedroom hallway and place the fridge there. on the other side, you can take off almost the whole wall to 1/2 except for the location of the plumbing stack that is running up and down from floor to floor. you will then have enough space for a dishwasher.

i would see if it's possible to remove some of the wall between the Livingroom and the kitchen to extend the cabinets through the dining room entrance.

the other choice is to place the fridge off the closed of hallway enterance and add a corner cabinet on top and bottom. these provide a huge amount of storage.