I just received a quote from an expeditor and I can’t tell if this is the norm or if I’m getting ripped off. Would be great if someone can advise on this. DOB Alt 2 filing $1850 Asbestos Report $1000 Special Inspections (estimate) $1500 DOB filing fees TBD DOB plan exam (per appearance) $250 DOB Alt 2 sign off $650 Construction work permit $250 Construction work permit fees TBD Mail office fees... [more]
I just received a quote from an expeditor and I can’t tell if this is the norm or if I’m getting ripped off. Would be great if someone can advise on this.
DOB Alt 2 filing $1850
Asbestos Report $1000
Special Inspections (estimate) $1500
DOB filing fees TBD
DOB plan exam (per appearance) $250
DOB Alt 2 sign off $650
Construction work permit $250
Construction work permit fees TBD
Mail office fees $325
Total: $5825
Printing and messenger services will be billed back at cost and also there would be an additional invoice if there is additional examinations.
Does anyone have any other recommendations? This is apparently the person that my architect works with, so I'd like to get other bids for this project. Also how long do you think it would take to get these permits?
Thanks in advance!
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Response by nymls
over 11 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2012
You are not being ripped off. Numbers are pretty much on target. Depending on the scope of work you can do significantly better than 1,000 for asbestos report (anywhere from $200 & up), but it does not depend on the expeditor - just shop around (and ask the one they use). Permits will take you 10+ business days ( mostly likely you are looking at 3-4 weeks ).
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Response by Aaron2
over 11 years ago
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If it's the expeditor your architect is used to working with, use them. They already know how to work together. You're getting an expeditor becuase you want the job, you know, *expedited* -- why risk the process to save a trivial amount of money?
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Response by BuiltINstudio
over 11 years ago
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I agree these numbers are pretty much on target. It is definitely a plus for your architect to have a relationship with the expediter but you could do a little better than this. Asbestos is a little high, our clients usually pay about $500-600, permit is usually $200 and sometimes on the GC. You could try to negotiate this or you can shop around, but again, it is important your architect has a good relationship with the expediter and, with most things, you do get what you pay for.
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Response by flarf
over 11 years ago
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I paid $1300 for the expeditor on an Alt-2 in 2012. That included filing the plans, attending up to four meetings with DOB examiners, and getting the letter of completion. DOB fees were not included. Architect charged another $100 or so for printing and mailing the plans.
The expeditor has their office in Ozone Park. My architect is in Forest Hills. I would expect to pay more for somebody based in Manhattan.
Permit fees were built into the GC's quote. Once the job was approved, it took a couple of days to pull permits. We managed to get a 2br/2ba gut renovation with new HVAC some minor facade changes through the DOB's same-day review process. Co-op board review time was an order of magnitude longer than the DOB process.
Abestos test and report was $980.
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Response by UESCombo
over 11 years ago
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flarf - who was your expediter?
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Response by novaNYC
over 11 years ago
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The fees look about right. You could find an expeditor to do it for a little less, but like what others have said here, its important that the expeditor and the architect have a working relationship. I also agree that the asbestos is high. I just paid $640 for the asbestos inspection/report/and tests for a 600sf co-op reno, but it all depends on the scope of the project.
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Response by whitedesert
over 11 years ago
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I'm finishing a renovation and combination of 2 apt units -- Architect fee of $8000 included expediting. DOB filing fee ($830) and permit fee ($165) were additional. Asbestos was around $550.
Agree with Flarf that Co-op board review time was an order of magnitude longer than the DOB process.
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You are not being ripped off. Numbers are pretty much on target. Depending on the scope of work you can do significantly better than 1,000 for asbestos report (anywhere from $200 & up), but it does not depend on the expeditor - just shop around (and ask the one they use). Permits will take you 10+ business days ( mostly likely you are looking at 3-4 weeks ).
If it's the expeditor your architect is used to working with, use them. They already know how to work together. You're getting an expeditor becuase you want the job, you know, *expedited* -- why risk the process to save a trivial amount of money?
I agree these numbers are pretty much on target. It is definitely a plus for your architect to have a relationship with the expediter but you could do a little better than this. Asbestos is a little high, our clients usually pay about $500-600, permit is usually $200 and sometimes on the GC. You could try to negotiate this or you can shop around, but again, it is important your architect has a good relationship with the expediter and, with most things, you do get what you pay for.
I paid $1300 for the expeditor on an Alt-2 in 2012. That included filing the plans, attending up to four meetings with DOB examiners, and getting the letter of completion. DOB fees were not included. Architect charged another $100 or so for printing and mailing the plans.
The expeditor has their office in Ozone Park. My architect is in Forest Hills. I would expect to pay more for somebody based in Manhattan.
Permit fees were built into the GC's quote. Once the job was approved, it took a couple of days to pull permits. We managed to get a 2br/2ba gut renovation with new HVAC some minor facade changes through the DOB's same-day review process. Co-op board review time was an order of magnitude longer than the DOB process.
Abestos test and report was $980.
flarf - who was your expediter?
The fees look about right. You could find an expeditor to do it for a little less, but like what others have said here, its important that the expeditor and the architect have a working relationship. I also agree that the asbestos is high. I just paid $640 for the asbestos inspection/report/and tests for a 600sf co-op reno, but it all depends on the scope of the project.
I'm finishing a renovation and combination of 2 apt units -- Architect fee of $8000 included expediting. DOB filing fee ($830) and permit fee ($165) were additional. Asbestos was around $550.
Agree with Flarf that Co-op board review time was an order of magnitude longer than the DOB process.
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