BBQs in common spaces

I think electric ones are OK

According to New York City fire code, a grill must be ten feet away from anything flammable. If you think about how most patios are constructed, this means most of the charcoal Weber kettles you see are illegal.

Moving propane about the city is a no-no, too, so you can't have the MHP grill I have in the suburbs.

A gas grill is okay if there's a built in gas line -- they just did this in a PH on Warren Street.

But for most new devs, a grill is simply not going to work. I agree with the poster above, if you want outdoor kitchen capability, consider an electric unit.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

Moving propane about the city is a no-no? Have you noticed the food cart vendors? They don't cook with firewood. You can look at www.manhattanpropane.com - $40/cylinder delivered in Manhattan. The NYC fire department says "Never use a propane barbecue grill on a balcony, terrace or roof. It is both dangerous and illegal." You are allowed to use them on the ground with a 10 foot clearance from any flammable material.

ssskit, there's a lot of information for you in this recent thread, though as a vegetarian I'm somewhat conflicted...

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/3435-balconies-and-terraces-value-added

Thanks guys. Sounds like electric must be what is used by buildings that have BBQs.

i just moved to a decent sized terrace and i bought the charcoal weber yesterday. after seeing the electric grills in person it was a no brainer. can't go wrong with the real thing...and its legal.

Goldie: You are correct, however, the problem is that you cannot "legally" move the propane tank through a building. Unless you have direct access from the street to the yard, techincally, you cannot use a propane grill because you cannot get the tank "legally" into your yard. I recall an article in the NYT some years ago where a fire chief said (I assume tongue firmly in cheek) that you could, perhaps, airlift the tank into the yard with a copter and that might be legal. Also, as I recall, you can exchange tanks at McKinney's welding in the West 50's and can always fill in Jersey provided you drive on the upper level of the GWB.

great question, does anyone know the deal with electric grills. Just on paper it doesn't seem they would be very good.

10' away from bldg is what I heard too. I had propane tank on my terrace and it was 10' away and never a problem with bldg manager. Plus, you need to invite everyone over too for a BBQ party. Ill bring corona's

does anybody no what the best electric grills are?

I'm pretty sure the rule is 10 feet from a combustible surface. So if you cover the adjacent walls and floor with a stainless-steel skin (for example), you're okay near a wall.

er1to9, try http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-HPS-SG3-200-Square-Inch-Electric-Barbeque/dp/B00011HH22/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1212505002&sr=8-1

thanks.......