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Buying Coop for Mother

Started by BickNYC
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 2
Member since: Feb 2015
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My mom (in her 60s) is trying to sell her coop in WaHeights and wants to relocate in Manhattan or Queens. She is concerned about passing board approval because she doesn't have a work history. But it will be an all cash deal. In the event she cannot find a sponsor unit, she wants me to be the one to go through board approval "on her behalf" and say that she will be living with me, or something like that. Is this kosher? I know that relatives are allowed to live with you, but I wouldn't actually be living there, just the financially responsible person on the deed. Also, not sure I could actually pass a board -- I'm a young professional freelancer, earning under six figures.
Response by jelj13
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 821
Member since: Sep 2011

What don't you look for a brokerage that has a specialist in housing for "retired" people? They know which buildings would be a good fit. I know Klara Madlin has that service. There have to be others.

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Response by ioserin
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 21
Member since: Jan 2009

I would not apply on behalf of your mom. Is she working now? Good credit? Will she show an income on her 2014 tax returns? Will she have any cash in the bank after paying all cash for her new apartment? The board will want to see that she is capable of paying her maintenance.

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Response by front_porch
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 5315
Member since: Mar 2008

Typically this is done as two applications - one from you and one from Mom. If she's not yet drawing Social Security, you might want to offer a couple of years of maintenance in escrow to bridge the gap.

Ali r.
(downtown broker)

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Response by BickNYC
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 2
Member since: Feb 2015

Ali, are you saying we wouldn't necessarily have to lie to the board about my living there? As long as can demonstrate Mom can cover the maintenance payments through Social Security, savings, etc. and I pass the financial screen as co-owner?

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Response by jasonl PRO
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 78
Member since: Jan 2010

You should never try to deceive a board. Many co-ops allow co-purchasing and so those are the buildings you should target. Both you and your mother would be co-applicants, and your mother would be listed as the resident. If both your income and your mother's ss payments can cover the maintenance and your housing costs comfortably then you would probably be fine. By comfortably, a common minimum housing debt to gross income would be considered below 28%. It also depends on the location. Many boards in upper Manhattan and outer Queens are more liberal and might be fine with your mother's savings and ss income. Lot of unknowns here... which neighborhoods, the price point, how much liquid assets after the all cash purchase, your income and housing costs, etc.

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Response by BickNYC
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 2
Member since: Feb 2015

Thanks Jason. 1BR, price point is under $250K, need maintenance that is $800 or lower. Definitely looking upper Manhattan, Riverdale, and Queens. Also pet friendly hopefully. A big ask I know. If anyone has a good broker to refer for this kind of thing please post.

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Response by jasonl PRO
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 78
Member since: Jan 2010

With these specs your mother might be able to qualify on her own depending on her post close liquidity. She also might be a good candidate for HDFC buildings if she has little to no income for the past couple of years and can purchase in cash.

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Response by front_porch
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 5315
Member since: Mar 2008

Bick, that's exactly right. It will be easier for you if you're moving your mother closer to you, and can make that statement to the board, but this is not an unusual narrative at all.

I'm sorry that this went, because it sounds like it have worked nicely for you: http://streeteasy.com/building/870-west-181-street-new_york/28

Off the top of my head, don't know anyone who has the bandwidth to do both upper Manh and Queens, but I'll give it a think.

ali

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Response by front_porch
almost 11 years ago
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^^ although now I read your post -- she's leaving WaHi -- would Riverdale or Inwood really be better?

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Response by kaydee
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 35
Member since: Feb 2012

Forest Hills, Rego Park, Briarwood in Queens. treelinetoskyline.com

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