80% carpet rule

Almost EVERY building has those "rules." They are enforced only to the extent that someone complains. If someone loves their hard floors, they will/should attempt to be quiet to the extent that their noise does not impact upon their neighbors. For example, London Terrace has those rules, and I have seen probably 150 apartments in that complex over the past ten years, and not one of those apartments had carpeting -- all hard floors, and even advertised as such. If you make noise that bothers your upstairs (or downstairs or sideways) neighbors, you will (in a well-managed building), be asked to cover your floors. If your hallway happens to be above someone's bedroom, you will most certainly (in a good building) be told to cover the floors or be subject to substantial fines.

But what the hell do I know, I live in San Francisco, a much more civilized city than Manhattan, where everyone seems to feel that they are the only person in the universe. We don't need those rules because we automatically know that if you live in a building with other people, you either cover your floors with carpets or discretely remove your shoes upon entering your apartment. Of course, New Yorkers don't have the common courtesy to act accordingly; thus the need for your silly rules. Good luck.

HALLWAYS: I always put long, thick runners in the hallways because they get the most traffic.

I remember there being a dispute in a place I lived in because the children were using the hallways in the apartment as a play area, especially a nuisance when they rode their plastic wheeled trikes. This turned into an ugly, long running dispute because they had the other rooms carpeted 80%. This made no sense because the building had a play room with tons of trikes in all sizes the children could have used.

There was a long thread on this in the past http://streeteasy.com/talk/discussion/17818-80-carpet-rules but it seems that some posters pushed the envelope and said some inappropriate things about carpets and floors.

The main reason we sold our co-op was that the management did not enforce the 80% rule and we had a very active toddler above us and despite our complaints, nothing was done.

That's a thread worth revisiting. Where have you gone, inquirer?

That thread is well worth revisiting.
Where have you gone, Jsmith9005? You were ready to sum it all up on page 2 of her 3-page ongoing meltdown.

To answer your question, it's 80% of floors overall excluding areas you mentioned. It's not 80% of exposed area after furniture, to my understanding although it's generally not clearly articulated.

Some buildings require the person complaining about noise to have THEIR floors in compliance with the 80% rule before pursuing a noise complaint.

you should just ask your managing agent what this means for your building. every building is different, and most buildings don't even enforce what's written. my mother got a letter from her co-op board a few months ago, telling her that her downstairs neighbor complained about the noise and she needed to carpet 80% of her floors -- she talked to her super, who told her not to do anything because the lady downstairs is crazy and was really hearing noise from my mom's next door neighbors who have small children. My mom's neighbors with kids have since moved out, she hasn't changed her carpeting situation, and she hasn't heard anything since...

I had a managing agent come out to look at my apartment due to repeated noise complaints from my downstairs neighbor. I also walked around the house in sock-like slippers. Since the apartment was 80% carpeted, he went downstairs to find out more from the neighbor. The neighbor said she heard me walk in the foyer at 7 AM and 6 PM when I left/entered the apartment and I made noise taking a shower at 8PM at night. The managing agent asked about parties, loud music, TV blasting, arguments, etc. and the neighbor said no, However, she expected absolute quiet 24 hours a day. The managing agent came back to me and apologized. He said he told the neighbor to move.

There are lots of people in NY with vivid imaginations. A long time ago I lived in a high-rise rental, that actually was very well constructed for sound. I worked 100 hours a week, and literally was never home between 8:30 am and midnight. The lady downstairs kept putting notes under my door and complaining to the building staff about high heels (me, single male living alone), banging, music, etc. It was a running joke between me and the night doorman when I came home at 1 am, he would say, man, there has been a rocking party again in your apartment while you were at work. Your neighbor called to complain 3 times.

For sure. Read the link above and be happy that you don't live anywhere near such a mess.

Can you imagine living in a coop building with someone who thought it was appropriate to sue and cause all sort of disruption for many because it took the building three days to change a lightbulb within that person's apartment? Not In any public places, inside the apartment?

Get lost with the drama. None of that is true just another attempt to start an argument.
The link is real and here for all to see.

I thought the lawsuit was about headlight diving.

People should maintain their own apartments. Change your own light bulbs, buy your own replacement toilet seat, maintain the required 80% carpet, vacuum the carpet. This is city living. Same person who wouldn't even change something as personal as their own toilet seat is person to lazy to use the subway to go to her publicly-funded doctor and instead calls Access-A-Ride just because he or she once paid taxes. Same person who won't change a light bulb or vacuum her apartment's carpet despite his or her child's inherited illnesses probably ends up suing her co-op or rental development and taking money that is otherwise intended by law to support those truly in need or New York's working class.

Different lawsuit.

So much litigation (and empty threats thereof) is initiated by said individual that the troll can be forgiven for confusing the two lawsuits. Especially because they're both Illuminati-related.

What a loser couple they are. One lies and the other agrees. Five years haven't changed a thing for those two. The thread is the only reality for all to see. Their lame comments are childish attempts to redirect attention away from them.

I have a copy of the decision. Truth.

She's back on another meltdown with the same lies she claimed five years ago. She's not a lawyer yet she has "a copy of the decision. Truth." Yet another attempt to redirect attention away from her cursing and melting down on the thread from five years ago. Take your " copy of the decision" and stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm not the only person who has print-outs of your numerous meltdowns and threats before they were edited and erased, going back from five years ago and continuing to this day. There is no fear of you because you are a loser.

>Different lawsuit.
>confusing the two lawsuits

Light bulb, toilet seat, co-op, landlord.

No confusion here.

What meltdown? That would seem to be you.

You forgot the cause of action relating to having to go downstairs to retrieve food.

So polite, so genteel. My sun shines absolutely. Clearly yours does not, hiding where there is no sun.

10011, that's a great ZIP code!

Yes, it is. Although I prefer 11211 these days. Maybe I should change.

Maybe you should. I like how backwards and forwards, it still reads the same. That's what we need in this world, multiple perspectives still yield the same result.

My ZIP is 12534

Hey Edwin, you showed up here in 2014? Right. Quit your meltdown, it's unattractive.

This thread is fun.

Yet another good thread completely ruined by trUth. :(

I just Googled Edwin 10011. Interesting.

Interesting

Would SOMEBODY please reply to Ed? She is desperately seeking attention.

The extremely excessive use of quotes by someone purportedly in the business is dubious at best.

Funny.

Seriously, you find it clever to talk about diapers and poop? Get a life.

I'm beginning to think there is some off-Streeteasy history between 10011 and Edwinnyc.

I just clicked on the link above. Very hard thread to read with all the deletions.

I'll have Ralph look into it.

Maybe Mutumbo would like to add a comment?

Or riversider?

carpet is so much fun, until it burns.

She is on another meltdown, calling out names of people who have nothing to do with this discussion thread.
Go to sleep, loser!
The reality is here and also there on the link, for all to see.