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Bye-Bye Bonuses

Started by iMom
almost 18 years ago
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJ1zYLJvyctI&refer=home The key sentence here is ``Fuld is preparing his guys for what's coming for them. He's setting an example because the troops will also get shrunk bonuses.'' Lehman's Fuld, McDade to Forgo Their 2008 Bonuses, People Say By Yalman Onaran June 27 (Bloomberg) -- Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. Chief Executive Officer... [more]
Response by iMom
almost 18 years ago
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On the bright side, if bonuses are going to be paid out, most of it will be in the form of company stock. Given the decline in financials this year, that means employees will be getting their stock at attractive levels.

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Response by walterh7
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"On the bright side, if bonuses are going to be paid out, most of it will be in the form of company stock. Given the decline in financials this year, that means employees will be getting their stock at attractive levels."

Just like those Bear Stearns employees. :) But seriously, it will take 2-4 years for the brokerage industry to 'repair' itself.

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Response by randomguy
almost 18 years ago
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"Given the decline in financials this year, that means employees will be getting their stock at attractive levels."

If Lehman stock is at an attractive level to you, you must be brilliant. To me its entirely unattractive.

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Response by iMom
almost 18 years ago
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Randomguy: Well of course LEH isn't attractive to me.....but in general, if you MUST accept company stock as compensation, you would rather receive it at a lower-price rather than a higher price. My point was that most of the bonuses paid out at the end of the year (if any) will likely be in the form of restricted stock, not cash.

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Response by randomguy
almost 18 years ago
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"you would rather receive it at a lower-price rather than a higher price. My point was that most of the bonuses paid out at the end of the year (if any) will likely be in the form of restricted stock, not cash."

As the other poster astutely pointed out, Bear employees received 2007 bonuses in equity and look where it got them. Lehman may in fact be the next shoe to plummet. It is not with joy that I make that statement. Stock bonuses in the current environment are the equivalent of being paid in human shit.

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Response by iMom
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Can't really disagree with you.

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Response by randomguy
almost 18 years ago
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The financials torched themselves letting these little fuckers sell crap paper to the street. these ibanks are overrun with junior people running deals. its a real problem. no oversight. look what its caused.

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Response by iMom
almost 18 years ago
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UPDATE VIA THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

Lehman Employees to Get Shares
By SUSANNE CRAIG
July 2, 2008 4:29 p.m.

Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., in a move to reward employees who are sticking with the investment bank as it fights to steady itself, is awarding midyear stock bonuses to employees.

The move is an attempt by Lehman to take advantage of its low stock price, which has recently dipped to levels it hasn't seen since 2000. Employees are typically paid a combination of cash and stock. Because of Lehman's low share price, the award will put even more shares into the hands of employees, who already own about 30% of the firm.

Terms of the awards call for Lehman employees to get the equivalent of 20% of the stock award they received in 2007 as a down payment for their 2008 compensation. They will get the rest of their 2008 compensation, comprised of cash and stock, next January.

Lehman's stock awards will not dilute current shareholders because the shares being handed out already have been accounted for by the firm.

The shares will vest over a three-year period, with one-third vesting each year. That is a shorter vesting period than previously offered by Lehman, but in line with Lehman's competitors. Also, unlike most Lehman employee stock offers, this one does not come at a discount to the stock's market price.

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