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Downtown Purchase (studio)- new development

Started by Investing101
about 8 years ago
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Hey Guys, Wanted to get people's thoughts on purchasing a new development studio condo and if it is a purchase that has longer term value. Areas I am looking at are EV, LES (some new developments going on), Gramercy. If can get a studio for 600 sqft is that something people generally would be open to buying in a few years (this wouldn't be a long term purchase but more of a starting apartment). I think you can get price per sqft of around $1500-$1600. From an affordabilty stand point $900-950k is max I would like to spend. Alternatively could get a Coop (1 bedroom) and get more immediate value but not sure how good the resale market maybe vs a Condo.
Response by Squid
about 8 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

IMO a 1 bedroom is always more 'salable' than a studio. Lots of folks prefer a co-op for the stricter regulations (that is if they plan to live in the unit full-time) but many others prefer the flexibility of a condo (one major drawback being that you and your neighbors can rent to whomever you want, which means less control over problem tenants than with the stricter co-op sublet policies). Personally I prefer to live in a co-op, though if I were buying solely for investment purposed I'd absolutely do a condo.

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Response by nychomeowner
about 8 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2014

Agree with Squid - one bedroom units are more liquid than studios on the resale market. If you are looking for mid/long-term flexibility to hold the unit as an investment property after you outgrow it, then a condo is the way to go. You shouldn't have a problem renting out a studio, but whether you will be able to cover your monthly costs at that price point if you're financing is a different story.

Dan Gotlieb
Digs Realty Group
www.digsrealtynyc.com

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Response by JR1
about 8 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2015

Sounds like you should buy a condo. The closing costs are generally lower for a coop going in, but more expensive on the way going out. No mortgage recording tax on the way in, but flip tax on the way out. Plus most coops won't let you sublet right away, and have sublet fees etc.

I'd just Google NYC closing costs and do some research before you decide, or just research generally whether buying a coop is a good investment or not!

Have you already looked into getting a home buyer commission rebate through a company like Hauseit? Seems to make sense if you're looking to buy, having a buyer's agent doesn't cost you anything. Though just because advice is "free" doesn't mean you should take it. You should make sure you're working with someone who's experienced, has a track record, won't risk your deal because or poor relationships with other brokers, and is trustworthy. The latter is one of the most important criteria according to the NAR :-)

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Response by CaptainOfTheGate
about 8 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2017

I disagree on the 1 beds being more "salable" than studios. I think especially for condos it all comes down to size and PPSF. There are plenty of "lofts" that don't have many legal bedrooms due to windows, but plenty of space. No reason to penalize just because it's a loft.

There are plenty of loft "studios" in the most expensive areas of town like Soho, Tribeca, Meatpacking, Highline - those also happen to be the hippest.

Regarding the above, yes sure do your research on nyc closing costs but it's pretty obvious to most people that they don't have to pay for a buyer's broker. Agree though that most of my network has no ideas about this broker commission rebate idea (buyers getting some of the commission from their buyer's agent). I think more people have heard of FSBO, selling through Hauseit etc. as that seems to becoming more mainstream, but for buyers there still needs to be more education. Most people just call one of their 15 real estate agent buddies when it's time to search. Pretty sad but that's the market.

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Response by 35yrs_RE_25_in_REO
about 8 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2016

I would be willing to bet that buying a new construction condo studio in the locations mentioned that is currently being offered at today's prices could be the biggest mistake you make in the next 5 years.

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Response by JR1
over 7 years ago
Posts: 184
Member since: Jun 2015

You should also factor in the differences in closing costs for buyers when you buy a sponsor unit: https://www.hauseit.com/closing-cost-calculator-for-buyer-nyc/

Note that you'll have to pay the transfer tax when you sell it ... so you pay it when you buy and when you sell :-)

Unless you can negotiate your way out of it of course, get a good buyer's agent.

But seriously, play around with the calculator. I feel like people forget too often the transaction costs involved when they do these price appreciation and return scenarios.

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