The Pad

I've seen The Pad...It's nice and "lofty." However, no amenities and not in the prime Williamsburg area. Check out The Edge. It's a new development by the waterfront.

thanks for the comment "prple777",it's for a pied a terre,so i would like a low maintenance ,even if there are few amenities
is the area safe? is it 10-12 walking minutes from the subway?

Fignar - i am an agent at aptsandlofts.com - if you haven't seen this building, it's great for a pied a terre. i can give you more information.

"is the area safe?"

Check curbed.com for recent reports of gang-related violence in South WB. A shooting, random stabbings, kids w/ machetes (seriously).

http://curbed.com/search.php?blogs=1%2C4%2C9&query=machete

i checked this out and the units, all almost identical, are very, very tiny!!

btw: i'm not sure how lofty fits into the description since lofts are usually open and spacious...

Hi nyc08!
you said the units are very tiny,but if they are listed at 560 sqf,they are 560sqf not less not more ,don't you think ?
may be with a hight ceiling it apears to be tiny ?

nyc08, you should walk down South 2nd at night (9pm -11pm) and get a feel for the neighborhood. There are tons of tenements. In the summer everyone hangs on the street, plays music out of parked cars, open fire hydrants, drink, smoke. In the winter there are strange faces in doorways. And that type of neighborhood isn't for everyone. The nearest train is the J/M/Z which is a difficult walk past the Williamsburg Bridge on/off ramp. The prices at The Pad are certainly very low but everything cheap in NYC has a hidden price. If you want cheap with less grime you might try places along the G train route in Greenpoint. it takes longer to get to the city but you won't have people being shot on your block.

don't you go too far?

Last Saturday night I had to get from LES to North Brooklyn. There were no available cabs on Delancy so after 30 minutes of waiting I hopped on the B39 bus which crosses the W'burg bridge (it was my first time on that bus). I got off at the depot on the Bklyn side and walked down South 2nd to Bedford to catch the B61. The neighborhood was scary and I don't scare easily. I asked my Bklyn friends about South Williamsburg and the few of them who had lived there all moved after a few months. One of them had someone shot outside their door a few years back. Next time I need to get to Willaimsburg and I'm not close to the L, I'm taking a livery cab.

"you said the units are very tiny,but if they are listed at 560 sqf,they are 560sqf not less not more ,don't you think ?"

Fignar, I'm looking at 2D, listed at 560sf. The 1st floor is supposedly 405sf, but without counting the two exterior and one interior walls, you get a usable 338sf using their dimensions (13'6" 9'1" 6'9")11'5".

The upper level has a 5' ceiling height. It's a sleep loft, not a room, and should absolutely not have its area counted as regular square footage.

For that unit, tiny seems an appropriate term.

ok!!
many thanks for that explanation!
that's very important ,i thought the first level had a regular hight,
so you're right 338 sqf is VERY tiny
So where can we buy a studio ,+alcove or one bedroom in low budget in wburg?in a not too bad area ,without a Manhattan priced maintenance ;it seems difficult
i'm disapointed

I am looking to buy an apt in the building. Is the area really unsafe?
Any advice would be much appreciated.

I was really sucked in by their slick website so I went to check out the place in May on a Saturday afternoon. First, it's a good 10-12 minute walk to the Bedford L. The blocks immediately surrounding the Pad are very, very sketchy. If anyone is considering buying there, I would encourage them to take a walk around at night.

I was in Williamsburg just last night. In general, I like the area - lots of restaurants and stores, cool hip edgy vibe, lots of "young people". But it's still a little freaky strange. One guy - with scary bruises all over his face - approached me and my friends, and said, "Look at me!" and then proceeded to pressure us for money. He followed us for a whole block, saying rather disturbing things, walking too close behind, but finally left us alone. That was my first bad experience in that neighborhood.

And, oh, it was around 9:15pm in the evening.

Up by the Bedford L it's very nice- I've certainly got no issue with that part of town. Walk 7 blocks to the south, and its not quite Marlo Stanfield slinging rock, but it's not too far away either. A month ago there was a machete attack one block away from the Pad.

"Of Brooklyn’s police precincts, Williamsburg’s 90th, which encompasses the gentrifying South Side plus its central and east sections, has seen the greatest rise in crime over the past year — 13.49 percent — according to Compstat data. The neighboring 94th precinct, which includes Williamsburg’s tonier North Side and Greenpoint, has seen a 6.38 percent crime hike — the borough’s second-highest increase."

http://ny.metro.us/metro/local/article/A_spike_in_crime_has_Williamsburg_wary/13499.html

i have signed a contract at the Nforth,it's a nice building south facing;near the subway,the area is safe ;the "gentrification"will be a reality.The price range is the same as the Pad.
You can have a look.

i have signed a contract at the Nforth,it's a nice building south facing;near the subway,the area is safe ;the "gentrification"will be a reality.The price range is the same as the Pad.
You can have a look.

Great thanks for the tips and updates. Any other building that I should check out.
I feel the price at the PAD are so cheap and might be a good investment.

I would love to find a duplex space.......

Do ALL of the second story of this building have 5' ceiling heights?

I visited it quickly,but i remember that most of the celling is 5'height you can put a KS bed,you just can stand in front of it .But not so bad...

It's not so bad considering you'll be laying most of the time after you're stabbed and beaten; feet away from your house after leaving at night.

No posts for 10 months... can anyone who lives there report on what the situation is with this neighborhood and living in these units?

You don't need to live there to know the place is a ghetto.

A goood friend bought a large nice looking place in the penthouse n a building on south 4th, very near this building. But even he admits that it is very noisy. The noise from the train or bqe or whatever the hell it is is literally building rumbling, deafening, and so I would think that will constrain the number of potentialy buyers.

i saw the place and its not worth the price. there is a reason why the rest of the studio unit wasn't sold. the studio's that is still unsold is really, really, really small. the living room is small enough to put 2 seat sofa and you will be lucky to put flat screen tv on the wall that is if you don't have bar stool. if you do decide to have bar stool good luck with the layout. the craftsmanship wasn't that great. i saw about quarter inch gap between the wall base and finish floor. i'm sure you will see some cockroaches running around the base. there were some dents and scratches on hardware and wall. the neighborhood is bit sketchy. went there after work around 7pm and dark outside and some kids were hanging out at the corner of the block start saying stuff at me. i guess that was the welcome party. just glad nothing happen to me.

I went by today, the living rooms really are small (seating for two), and the street corner welcoming party was still out in force.

Can you get $1600-$1700 for rent for any of those duplex studios with sleeping lofts?