Cost to replace wood floors with cement floors

You can get cement look tiles in large format at a fairly reasonable cost (well under $10 per sq ft). However, from a resale point of view, it is not a good to do any floor other than hardwood floor unless it is a loft.

You can get cement look tiles in large format at a fairly reasonable cost (well under $10 per sq ft). However, from a resale point of view, it is not a good to do any floor other than hardwood floor unless it is a loft.
http://www.caesarceramicsusa.com/piastrelle-gres-porcellanato/1540-one/index.jsp

Thanks for the link 300 - any idea as to the cost to remove floors? And I agree wrt resale, but my plan is to be there for decades/life. Is it easier/cheaper to install tiles like these rather than actual cement? Or does it become a question of easier to change tiles to wood floors later rather than from true cement floors?

Removing is cheap. $3k for the whole apartment at most. Actual polished cement on site will be a lot more than than tile. Tile install will be less than $10 per sq ft. Tile cost $5-8 per sq ft.

A lot depends on what the subfloor is currently.

I agree with 30. If underfloor is cement, it comes either rough or smooth depending on constrution technique. The super might know. I went through this with my place and decided against it.

Thanks everyone - very instructive

Stache, Curious why does it make much of a difference whether it is rough or smooth concrete. The building would want you to put a plywood layer anyway.

You may want to check on whether the board would even allow this before doing too much legwork/planning.

I think it would cost way more than $10.00 sq ft to install. Probably need soundproofing too

Primer, more than $10 per sq ft to install for tiles or site poured cement?

You'd better check with the cooperative if they will allow you to install cement floors. The renovation agreement in my cooperative does not permit you to install cement floors or even tile the whole apartment with any type of tile (marble, procelain, ceramic, etc.). They ony allow tile in the bathroom and kitchen. Otherwise, you must you must use wood or carpeting.

There is no way that you are doing a poured concrete floor in NYC for $10/ft, unless the concrete can be pumped into your apartment from a truck. Otherwise, this is pallets full of 40 lb bags of concrete hauled into your apartment, and a messy job. And, you and your building management are going to want a separation layer between the building floors and any installed floor so that it does not need to be jack hammered out. I did a bathroom in a recent renovation in this cement-like tile, which was more like $15/ft for the tile alone. It is on display at either Nemo or Daltile.

http://olympiatile.com/product/series/70/design_industry

Sport, My estimate of $10 is for tiles install without materials. The tile link I posted cost $7-8 retail for materials but you can find one for $5 as cement look porcelain is very commonly available.

Material cost also depends on how much money you have which in turn decided Manhattan retail vs nj discount after getting samples.
https://www.flooranddecor.com/porcelain-tile/cementi-gray-porcelain-tile-100181510.html#prefn1=color&prefv1=Gray&prefn2=size&prefv2=24+x+24%7C18+x+36&prefn3=finish&prefv3=Matte&start=2

Soundproofing material is less than $1 per sq ft and plywood layer is $2 per sq ft. Glue/mortar less than $1 per sq ft. Materials all in $10 but you can go to Artistic tile and pay $15 per sq ft for substantially the same tile for a wonderful shopping experience as they have a beautiful retail store.

Response,

Sound proofing material is less than $1.00 a sq ft and plywood is less than $2.00 but how much is it to install?

I say that as I agree with you to do the tile. I would just go to Nemo tile and get a beautiful porcelain tile for $7-$8 sq ft

Primer, My estimate of labor of $10 includes sounding proofing, plywood and tile install (all materials extra). What do you think someone will charge and how long will it take 2 workers to install it for 1300 sq ft ($12k in labor at $10 per sq f; $1000 for insurance)?

Question for whoever: especially if you were going over joists (as opposed to concrete subfloor) wouldn't you lay down mud or a concrete backer board before tile?

My best guess that due to excess weight this would not be allowed or coop would not want to take the risk to approve.

300 I brought this up during my board interwiew. They were ok with structural concrete in my building after I offered sisal area rugs as a compromise. I have to agree with you about the board allowing the excess weight of a concrete overlay. You might be able to get away with structural concrete in a condo.

not sure if this matters in your renovation, but every NYC DOB permit sign I have ever seen posted in my coop and other condos/coops, always says at the top in big letters "CONCRETE WORK NOT AUTHORIZED" so make sure DOB will approve

300 Mercer,

I don't think its that easy. One would have to take a look at it. I wouldn't use plywood and tile. I am sure there is self-leveling to do, by the time your done you might have to shave some doors down, need new base moldings for sure, etc.

Just for a tile guy: I just had a sub price out basically the same and he was 30k just to level and tile.
He is on the higher end but he is worth it.

Primer05,
Best tile/stone sub I ever used Mauro Zannuto, Giada Stone Corp, Brooklyn. He was on This Old House when they did a show in Brooklyn.

Primer, Good point. Door and base moldings will certainly be extra. If you want the whole apt perfectly leveled, that is costly but if the floor slabs are concrete, leveling is typically ok (not perfect) unless the owner is very peculiar.

I am trying to get the alteration agreement and now looking at porcelain tiles, Cement/concrete does not seem to be an option. I came across some very nice ones that mimic stone and were under $8 at Stone Source. My guess is that the coop allows tiles throughout as a recent apartment renovation had marble floors is most areas. But who knows what the board would ultimately decide.