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Unrenovated sponsor sale

Started by 300_mercer
almost 7 years ago
Posts: 10570
Member since: Feb 2007
There are several unrenovated units listed for sale. Wondering why the sponsor does not renovate the units and sell. I would think that it would cost the buyer $400 per sq ft for high end finishes suitable for this building plus carry plus trouble. Call it all in $500 per sq ft. I would think that the sponsor can do it for less.
Response by itesfai
almost 7 years ago
Posts: 77
Member since: Nov 2012

I think their preference is always to sell quickly without deploying capital. Also is this the original sponsor or new one that bought un reno-units in bulk? The new ones, mostly, tend to not renovate since they might not have the supporting structure (in house GC, Architects, etc..).

I would think that with sales at Belnord now underway, I would think a buyer would rather buy there vs renovating in this building with the headache that comes with it (unless compensated well). Thoughts?

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 7 years ago
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I would certainly agree on the second part about a buyer wanting to buying renovated vs non renovated due to many fully finished choices in the market. Why spend $500+ per sq ft including carry and trouble to renovate?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
almost 7 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2009

The Apthorp has had issues, and if the units on the market are part of these:
https://therealdeal.com/2016/05/06/sitt-splashes-120m-on-71-units-at-apthorp-condo-building/
my guess is that Sitting doesn't have tons of extra cash laying around these days.

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 7 years ago
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Thank you. They paid $810 per sq ft!! That seems like a very good deal if there is no rent stabilized tenant.

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 7 years ago
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Btw, do you know if some of the 71 units Sitt purchased were rent stabilized?

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almost 7 years ago
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Response by Squid
almost 7 years ago
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Personally I would always prefer to purchase a prewar unit in a 'storied' building like the Apthorp raw and without a crappy sponsor reno that would just need to be torn out and replaced. Sponsor renos are fine in run-of-the-mill buildings but buyers in historic buildings tend to prefer higher-end work. At least I do...

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 7 years ago
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It think a sponsor will have to respect the history and have pre war details. Robert M Stern building interiors are good examples of modern day take on the classic. However, many sponsors may cheap out and not spend the money on detailing.

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