Unrenovated sponsor sale
Started by 300_mercer
almost 7 years ago
Posts: 10570
Member since: Feb 2007
Discussion about The Apthorp at 390 West End Avenue in Upper West Side
There are several unrenovated units listed for sale. Wondering why the sponsor does not renovate the units and sell. I would think that it would cost the buyer $400 per sq ft for high end finishes suitable for this building plus carry plus trouble. Call it all in $500 per sq ft. I would think that the sponsor can do it for less.
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I think their preference is always to sell quickly without deploying capital. Also is this the original sponsor or new one that bought un reno-units in bulk? The new ones, mostly, tend to not renovate since they might not have the supporting structure (in house GC, Architects, etc..).
I would think that with sales at Belnord now underway, I would think a buyer would rather buy there vs renovating in this building with the headache that comes with it (unless compensated well). Thoughts?
I would certainly agree on the second part about a buyer wanting to buying renovated vs non renovated due to many fully finished choices in the market. Why spend $500+ per sq ft including carry and trouble to renovate?
The Apthorp has had issues, and if the units on the market are part of these:
https://therealdeal.com/2016/05/06/sitt-splashes-120m-on-71-units-at-apthorp-condo-building/
my guess is that Sitting doesn't have tons of extra cash laying around these days.
Thank you. They paid $810 per sq ft!! That seems like a very good deal if there is no rent stabilized tenant.
Btw, do you know if some of the 71 units Sitt purchased were rent stabilized?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/therealdeal.com/2016/05/18/michael-fascitelli-is-thors-partner-on-120m-apthorp-deal/amp/
Personally I would always prefer to purchase a prewar unit in a 'storied' building like the Apthorp raw and without a crappy sponsor reno that would just need to be torn out and replaced. Sponsor renos are fine in run-of-the-mill buildings but buyers in historic buildings tend to prefer higher-end work. At least I do...
It think a sponsor will have to respect the history and have pre war details. Robert M Stern building interiors are good examples of modern day take on the classic. However, many sponsors may cheap out and not spend the money on detailing.