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Homeless Shelter

Started by Stopherdt
over 6 years ago
Posts: 14
Member since: Jan 2019
Gosh, this building is 145 West 58th and the City just got the go ahead from a Judge to put a big homeless shelter for 150 men at 158 West 58th. It's just down the block. Doesn't the Mayor care how this affects the quality of life of the immediate neighborhood? How will this affect rentals here?
Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
Posts: 10536
Member since: Feb 2007

It is a socialist mayor wanting to say fku to the rich. More than wondering about the quality of life in the neighborhood, it is the cost of housing homeless in such an expensive area which bothers me. If the homeless are housed in a cheaper area at half the cost, the extra money can go to education (make both Ali and me happy).

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 6 years ago
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Hey, Trump floated the idea decades ago.

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Response by Stopherdt
over 6 years ago
Posts: 14
Member since: Jan 2019

Well, this building isn't for the rich. It is rentals ($3000+) and the middle class don't have security to protect them from the potential of increased crime etc.

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Response by stache
over 6 years ago
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I'm not a bible thumper but the poor will always be among us. Everyone has to share the pain. https://streeteasy.com/talk/discussion/22055-new-chelsea-homeless-shelter-127-w25th

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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Stache, There is nothing wrong with the city helping the poor (extent of help can be debated and the same for whether that poor needs to have been a resident of NYC for “x” number of years before help is given - essentially a check on people moving to nyc to be nyc tax payers’ dime). However, the city can help the poor equally well by housing them in a less expensive real estate location and not forgo the real estate taxes the city would have collected at a more expensive location like cps.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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And by the way, percentage of taxes paid by rich (call it more than 500k income) as a percentage of total city revenue is very high. So the rich are indeed sharing the pain.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 6 years ago
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Actually, since I think billionaire's row has the highest percentage of unoccupied apartments of anywhere it's probably the best place to put a shelter and have the least negative impact on actual NYers daily lives. And it's not like the small percentage of people who live in those buildings shop at local stores, walk the streets, take public transportation, etc. So the social impact will be the least of just about anywhere. Plus those buildings have rather high security already.
If this were added to some seedy block in Chelsea or Midwood or ..... it might have a real negative impact. But no one is buying in billionaire's row because of the neighborhood - they are buying there for the building/unit despite the crappy location (and from Miller Samuel recent report, apparently note so much that, either https://www.millersamuel.com/billionaires-row-continues-to-be-challenged/ )

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Response by stache
over 6 years ago
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^ This. People of color complain about shelters being concentrated in their neighborhoods. This is a situation where it's impossible to please everyone.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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Well, the city can put homeless shelter close to other public housing in cheaper areas.

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Response by ExBrooklynite
over 6 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2014

The diBlasio 'plan' is to destabilize as man middle-class neighborhoods as possible.

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Response by Conley
over 4 years ago
Posts: 11
Member since: May 2018

New York's highest court just threw out the litigation that was blocking this shelter, so it can move forward. The neighborhood coalition had warned of dire consequences, but they lost.
https://gothamist.com/news/plans-homeless-shelter-billionaires-row-can-move-forward-after-state-court-rejects-lawsuit

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