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Effect of New Green Energy Law

Started by Elmosam
over 6 years ago
Posts: 12
Member since: Dec 2016
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Thoughts on the effects on Manhattan co-op prices by the new green energy law? Some say it will completely cripple the market as prices will tumble and many owners will not be able to meet the assessments in prewar buildings that will be required to comply with the law.
Response by Aaron2
over 6 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2012

Depends on the building: My co-op (circa early 1970s) shows as being 4.7% over the 2030 target "Green House Gas Intensity", which doesn't seem insurmountable. One more thing for buyers to consider during due diligence.

https://council.nyc.gov/data/green/

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Response by Elmosam
over 6 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2016

How do I look up a specific building?

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Response by eriegel
over 6 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2011

Map is apparently incomplete

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Response by Elmosam
over 6 years ago
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Ah, ignore my previous comment. I found the map. Thank you!

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Response by front_porch
over 6 years ago
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My (inchoate) understanding is that a building can buy its way out, so instead of reducing consumption through hyper-expensive measures it can buy offsets by purchasing solar panels in the Hudson Valley or somesuch. I'm sure it will be an expense, but "cripple the market" seems like catastrophizing ahead of data, honestly.

ali r.
{upstairs realty}

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 6 years ago
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I think a lot of the information is over sensationalized: look at DeBlasio's "We are going to ban glass skyscrapers" statement.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 6 years ago
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As far as certain fees "bankrupting" coops my experience is that this claim gets pulled more frequently than Lawyer Dagett in True Grit. In the last coop I was in they actually started a lawsuit over a legal bill claiming that paying it "would bankrupt the coop." Over the next decade they paid 3 substantially high bills - one of which was the judgement against it for that bill which they claimed would bankrupt it, at DOUBLE the amount they could have paid in the first place.

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Response by Riversider
over 6 years ago
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If the market is efficient, older buildings that require more upgrades suffer more. not everyone does their due diligence , studies the financials and requests board minutes

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Response by stache
over 6 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2017

My building is 0.005/0.009. Is that in the penalty zone?

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