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What will it sell for?

Started by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 6 years ago
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Discussion about 455 West 20th Street #5C
BOT 1/15/2014 for $2.3 million, tried last year asking $3.1 million. 4C SLD 6/16/2015 for $2.75 million. What will the current market say?
Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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That is an expensive 1 bed room!!

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Response by 300_mercer
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I am surprised they paid $2.3mm. The same for 4C. It is barely 1000 sq ft. Lucky if they get the money back. Light is very nice.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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I think this unit has higher than average overstated square footage (i.e. between net usable interior SF and Offering Plan stated SF).

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Response by 300_mercer
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Indeed

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Response by Rock28
over 6 years ago
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Between 2.3 and 2.75 depending on how motivated the seller is. One bedrooms around the corner in new dev are trying to trade at around 2.3 or higher (e.g. XI). The new dev has more amenities but you aren't getting much natural light or views at the low end.

This looks to have access to a gym and a semi private garden plus lots of light. I personally wouldn't pay that, but I am sure someone will do the mental gymnastics to make it work for them.

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Response by 300_mercer
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What discount relative to brand new as it has 5 years of use?

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Response by 300_mercer
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Also, what discounts from the list can you get at XI?

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Response by Rock28
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Re: XI... I think those one bedrooms are going to get a price chop at some point. Just going from the public listings, it looks like the cheapest one bedrooms went from 2.5ish to 2.3ish. In this market, I think one bedroom with no views, high carrying costs, and not much natural light are going to have a difficult time selling at 2.XX. The developer is trying to selling the one bedrooms with slight views at high 3s.

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Response by 300_mercer
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I guess the high $3mm 1 bed rooms with view will get a 30 percent chop and trade at low $2k to $2500 per sq ft.

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Response by Rock28
over 6 years ago
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I could see that especially if the market continues to sour.

Developers don't have foreign buyers to swoop in and save them. And if the finance industry takes a dive, the pool of buyers will have shrunk considerably.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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Agree. I view it more so as the new developments were never worth the ridiculous premium they were being sold in over “luxury resales in top condition”. That premium has come down significantly with resales down a little (in luxury segment say 10 percent, low price points 5 percent) and new developments down 10-30percent (look at 212 Fifth). While exact comparison is hard to find but I still find new developments overpriced by 5-25 percent relative to resales. 5-10 percent is developments like 91 Leonard. Belnord is another one fairly priced (most closed sales so far are unrenovated apartments).

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Response by stache
over 6 years ago
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21 units with D/M?

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Response by Anton
over 6 years ago
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1.5k/sqft sounds more reasonable

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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That would be a little too low. Def north of $2mm.

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