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Ground Lease Coop Protection Bill

Started by trevorF
over 2 years ago
Posts: 58
Member since: Mar 2008
If this becomes a law, it would be a total game changer!
Response by steve123
over 2 years ago
Posts: 895
Member since: Feb 2009

It's interesting we seem to have a Gov/Mayor least tied to real estate industry of any in recent memory.

They seem to be in the pocket of Big Casino instead?

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Response by inonada
over 2 years ago
Posts: 7931
Member since: Oct 2008

Is this bill supposed to apply retroactively to existing ground leases, or only to future ones?

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Response by 300_mercer
over 2 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

It is still in the committee. So half baked as best. https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/A5031

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Response by Aaron2
over 2 years ago
Posts: 1693
Member since: Mar 2012

Probably flawed as well. #3 might be considered a taking (forced lease renewal), thus not permissible, #4 may be impossible (what bank will lend to the co-op using the land as collateral), #5 fair market value may still leave the co-op without the property, if a higher bidder appears.

My question: Does Tony Desimone (and how many of his contributors) live in a ground lease building?

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Response by 300_mercer
over 2 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

Aaron, I think the bill needs a lot more work before it gets a date in the chamber. At this point of time, it is just someone's fantasy to please the constituents.

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Response by Aaron2
over 2 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2012

I don't even think it's a bill worth wasting any more work on.

I think following the money on this one leads to some aggrieved shareholder (or speculator who bought a bunch of units) who wants to regulate her way to profitability. I'd rather see a bill that bans creation of new land-lease coops so that this pointless investment form goes away.

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Response by RichardBerg
over 2 years ago
Posts: 325
Member since: Aug 2010

As a Georgist, I have a secret crush on land-leases. If they were more widespread, they'd solve the biggest pragmatic flaw (price discovery) with LVT, while becoming the face of a conveniently unpopular political opponent (3rd party land owners).

I agree the provenance and substance of this bill are smelly.

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