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Man, I wish NYC could build condos like this. Instead, we just get sh*tty warehouse conversions and ugly boxes designed by kondylis or some other mediocre architect. Chicago is full of condos that look like this. http://www.340ontheparkchicago.com http://www.lincolnpark2520.com http://www.600northlakeshoredrive.com
....and he always repeats "NIMBY regulations".
RUFUS, you are so easy to spot.
here are the specific links.
"nyc is so dirty and overrated"
http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-york-city/399780-nyc-so-dirty-overrated-post4770088.html#post4770088
"i wish nyc had more supertall condos"
http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-york-city/406489-i-wish-nyc-had-more-supertall.html
wow talk about having a complex.
Are you a little insecure about your hometown Roof?
michaelkyleh, i never said only lincoln center has highrise condos. my point was that in upper west side, the vast majority of residential buildings that are taller than say, 25 stories, are located in the lincoln center area, which is indeed true.
if any of you guys actually visited chicago, you would see what i'm talking about, with regards to highrise condos.
"the vast majority of residential buildings that are taller than say, 25 stories, are located in the lincoln center area, which is indeed true."
That partially has to do with this...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_West_Historic_District
This one is better. Does it make sense to you now?
http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/downloads/pdf/maps/upper_west_side.pdf
"in upper west side"?
You not only don't live here, you've never visited NYC. In fact, I bet you don't even live in Chicago! You are probably saving all of your tip money from the late shift at Bob's Big Boy on 94 so you can finally move out of your parents house, move to a crappy studio in a carrpy Chicago neighborhood and final get a real live girl....or boy may be more appropriate for you Rufus.
exactly what part of my post regarding lincoln center was inaccurate? or are you just resorting to personal attacks because you can't refute any of my claims?
Personal attacks? I am trying to explain to you why there are high rises in Lincoln Center and not all over the rest of the UWS (LC is outside of the historic district). We have landmark and zoning regulations here...i.e. you cant just throw up a whole bunch of Trump style high rises all over the UWS to simply satisfy this running competition you have between NYC and Chicago.
i was referring to waverly's personal attacks.
i don't know why NYC has such an aversion to high rise residential buildings. If we built more of these throughout the city, rent would go down due to increased supply.
"If we built more of these throughout the city, rent would go down due to increased supply."
Rufus there is simply no way you live here. People are building many tall residential buildings in the city at this very moment in time. If you want to take issue with how "luxury" each one is that is on you but there are most definitely high rise residential buildings being built. Perhaps you should "take a stroll" around the city and see for yourself sometime.
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/123-washington-street-new_york
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/56-leonard-street-new_york
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/23-east-22-street-new_york
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/101-warren-street-new_york
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/101-west-24-street-new_york
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/15-william-street-new_york
Sizzlack is right on-target. Rufus, you have no idea of anything that is going on in NYC right now. Where are you? Let's meet up. I will walk you around the city and show you all of the new construction that's going up.
How about this: you said you live here and went out in the East village last weekend. Okay, tell us the streets you walked to get home. Let's here how you navigate the city. If you live here, you should be able to spit this back out in about 3 seconds. Delaying will just prove you don't live here.
Sizzlack, once again, you misunderstand my point. i never said that NYC does not have highrises or are not currently building them. my point is that due to various regulations, the city is not taking full advantage of opportunities in the way Chicago has. As I've said before, the long stretch of chicago from south loop to lincoln park is filled with highrise apartments. This abundance of supply is the main reason why Chicago rent is so much lower than NYC's. It's certainly not because rich people have an overwhelming desire to live in NYC.
waverly, i live on upper west side. i did go out to a bunch of bars in greenwich and east village, but they sucked, so i grabbed a cab home.
what exactly do you wish to accomplish in meeting up? i am precisely aware of the developments that have gone up in the last few years, and in terms of architecture, they're just not as impressive as Chicago's.
Rufie lives in the Hammond Indiana metropolis.
Even his use of Chicago area names is off. For example, he uses the term "Gold Coast" to refer to the whole swath of northside neighborhoods along the Lake, up to who knows where? In fact, it's one tiny little very nice, very landmarked, rather old neighborhood that flanks the Lake.
so why aren't you a city planner working at this very moment to change the regulations here? If you have serious issues with living near projects (and by your count its like anywhere within a 20 block radius) or not having enough high rises, it gives you two options: 1. Move 2. Act
But the constant Chicago is superior to NYC in every way shape or form is getting old. We get it, you have a very high opinion of Chicago. Congratulations. But this is a NYC board, debating the merits of Chicago really serve no purpose here.
"in greenwich and east village". New Yorkers would say, "I went out in the village and then the east village." No one says "Greenwich". You get them from a tourist book or wikipedia.
Rufus - which way does the traffic on 7th Avenue go? How about Park Avenue?
Anytime someone says Greenwich to me I think of CT. GV is and always will be 'the village'.
i've said greenwich village since i first moved here, so it's a habit on my part.
Here's an alanhart impersonation:
Murder of a therapist:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/nyregion/16tarloff.html
Man fatally shot:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/nyregion/18shoot.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Officer shot:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/10/nyregion/10staten.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
streakeasy, NICE!
Rufus...you also need to understand that you cant build skyscrapers all over Manhattan island. You need bedrock close to the surface to anchor your buildings to, and where you see the clusters of them (downtown and midtown) are obviously the two most reliable sites for tall building construction.
http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/historical_signs/hs_historical_sign.php?id=10763
Rufus - did you pull up some maps yet for the traffic question? Your answers are......
streakeasy -- thanks for supporting my position. Those stories are MONTHS apart from one another, whereas my last cluster was YESTERDAY in Chicago, and the six that I posted prior to that were all THIS WEEKEND.
waverley/Sizz -- I called him on Greenwich before, suggesting he hit the Port Chester bar scene, but oddly enough, he seemed (by the lack of direct reply) perplexed.
rufie -- "i've said greenwich village since i first moved here, so it's a habit on my part."
a) Greenwich Village -- still not correct. Try again.
b) "first moved here" -- by here, do you mean Hammond? Because earlier you claimed to have grown up in New York. Clarify. We're waiting.
Rufus - times up. Couldn't Google the traffic flows could you?
Add that to the giant pile of evidence that proves Rufus doesn't live in NYC.
Now let's see if he even lives in Chicago.....
Rufie, you're falling behind
1. traffic flow quiz
2. "first moved here" / grew up in NY
3. which side are you going to be on when you move to Chicago?
alanhart - he also ran away from this thread and had to start a new one becasue he was shown to be a liar.
He is on the ropes...anyone care to do the knockout blow?
I hate to say this, because rufie is really sensitive about 'ad homoman' attacks, but
Knockout blow?: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/flamingDruid2/Psychology1.html
This is all so funny.
So CONFIDMED...rufus obviously does NOT live in New York City . As someone mentioned, who says "I live in Upper West Side" or "I live on Upper West Side" It's "I live ON THE UPPER WEST SIDE" and LMAO @ "I went to Greenwich" WTF?
It's all adding up. You are googling as you. I knew something was fishy about you all along because every single thing you have said makes no sense. There are no high-rises in NYC? Are you kidding me? There are 52 high-rises under construction in Chicago and 170 high rises under construction in New York City as we speak, so not only does New York have wayyyyy more sky scrapers (NYC: 5,000, Chicago: 1,000), NYC is building more 3X more high-rises as we speak.
Oh and rufus, have you even been to NYC?
chrisyslslr, you're an idiot. i never said NYC does not have highrises or are not building them. can you please cite specific points I have made, that are demonstrably false?
rufus
8 days ago
"FYI, i grew up in NYC,"
rufus, do you like the Corn Cob Towers?
ouch,, Rufus ..getting a little upset there aren't we?
You've been called out as a fraud so its best you dissapear from here all together.
ummmm, you said:
"can you please cite specific points I have made, that are demonstrably false?"
YOU asked why NYC doesn't build more high rises. I then, showed you that NYC has 178 high-rises under construction.
178 is not enough? LOL!!! After Dubai, New York City is building more high rises than any other city in the WORLD:
Dubai: 296
NYC: 178
Shanghai: 164
Hong Kong: 149
Tokyo: 77
Chicago:52
So what is it you were saying again?
WOW, RUFUS OWNED AGAIN.
You have really taken a beating. Maybe you should take a break from posting on NYC forums? It would be for the best.
.....I'm still waiting for Rufus rebuttal.
As I've shown you, NYC is the most progressive city in the world when it comes to high-rises since it comes second after Dubai when it comes to high-rises under construction.
New York is basically built out and Dubai is basically a new city in the middle of an empty desert yet New York City still manages to be in the #2 spot when it comes to high-rise construction.
Rufus, just vanish from this forum.
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Rufus do you know the 7oth Street pier? It used to have another name that you would know if you live here If you look from the pier, you can see the high rises to the South and the old UWS to the north. It's kind of an amazing panorama that I look from every day. But I like the buildings to the North better. So do many people. That's why we not only have historic districts but land marked streets and the landmark buildings in the streets. So that no monster of a building would go up where it doesn't belong
I love many types of buildings on a street. But none are out of scale. The beauty of NY is that it's constantly growing while keeping older buildings
Where Penn Station is there was an incredible glass roof topped building I have vague memories of--mainly waving to my grandmother and the conductor. They didn't want to repeat that mistake--getting rid of an incredible building for something mediocre
Jackie Kennedy was one of the people who helped keep Grand Central beautiful.
I have nothing against new buildings but everyday when I look at both, I'm so proud to own a little piece of a pre-war
I just think it important that you know a bit of the modern history before disparaging it. You might want to read The Power Broker by Robert Caro about Robert Moses--one of the best books ever written and and anything by Jane Jacobs and Lewis Mumford before commenting on New York and its buildings.
While I agree about Rufus's mental state I thought I would bring it back to point a bit
Jaded - I agree. Part of the beauty of NYC for me is the old mixing with the new. The city changes, but holds onto it's past. To not appreciate this beauty....to call it dirty....is just ignorant.
waverly, you think les, east village, soho, are "beautiful?" LOL!
Rufus - I lived in the East Village for over 4 years. It is a great neighborhood with a lot of interesting older buildings....as is the LES.
Soho has some of the best blocks in the city. Tree-lined streets with shops and pre-war buildings are beautiful. If you can only associate architectural beauty with "new" than you should go live in the suburbs where everything is pre-fab, brand-new and exactly the same as the town next to it.
See, you definitely live in the burbs!
Rufus, NYC is the big leagues. Cities like Chicago, Boston and Philadelphia are like training wheel cities. If people can handle them and they're ready for the big time they come to NYC. Otherwise, they wallow in a second-tier city and tell each other how great it is to make themselves feel better for not being able to make it on their own in the big, bad, scary city of New York!
You despise NYC for its diversity, its history and its challenges. New Yorkers love NYC for its diversity, its history and yes, its challenges. We know how great it is. We appreciate it. We defend it. And we respect it.
If you cannot respect our city then stay in the burbs or in some second-rate city like Chicago. Consider yourself relegated to always be a big fish in a small pond who couldn't hack it here and never learned what NYC was all about. It will be your loss....not ours and certainly New York City's.
Oh, I get it rufie. You're moving to a liberal city from Indiana, and you think you're conservative. So the gang that you'll try to join is The Conservative Vice Lords.
http://chicagogangs.org/index.php?pr=CVL
Their "saying" is "If you aint conservative u dont deserve to live"!!!
And they even have northside locations.
All is well.
http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/americas-most-miserable-cities.html
Rufus is a troll, who was rejected by his dream school and dream city, Columbia and New York City.
He loved the city until sour grapes set in...
This is all well documented...
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/8131-rufus-mystery-solved
He is so jealous he spends all day trying to post negatively about NYC.
Man, this guy is so pathetic...
"got rejected at columbia business and am pretty devastated."
"Oh well. I have to spend an extra year in shitty Chicago and reapply for round 1 next year."
"I've been to NYC several times but haven't really partied extensively. But almost everyone I've talked to who lives there tells me how NYC is so much fun and doesn't really get boring, people are interesting, etc. To what extent is this true? What makes NYC so much more fun than other cities like LA, SF, Boston, Chicago, etc.?"
"I live in Chicago but have been to NYC quite a few times and noticed a very sharp difference in the respective social scenes. Chicago seems much more fratty and bar oriented while NYC is a bit more upscale and pretentious. The girls in NYC also dress a lot better as well. I would like to hear opinions on this subject from those of you familiar with both cities."
"Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just really bummed out since I'm 27 years old, and now is the perfect time to go. And socially, I'm extremely dissatisfied with Chicago and really want to be in NYC. I just have to improve my application for next year and hope things turn out better"
Now that he's been rejected multiple times, he's changed his story a bit.