Rank what sections of the city will FALL due to recession.

"You also conveniently missed that the UES blows away everywhere else in town for museums."

Location of museums has nothing to do with where artists live (I don't think you're making that point, but one could reasonably infer that here).

"No, of course it does not.... and don't set up straw man arguments and waste everyone's time."

Not a strawman argument - you've been predicting a resurgence on the UES! And why are you so nasty all the time? Streeteasy was invented to waste time! Why else would you insist on arguing this relatively insignificant point so strongly?

nyc10022, I wrote THESE performing arts centers were above 34th Street--by reference, I'll repeat, Lincoln Center, Carnegie Hall, Theater District, all west side and not downtown. Most other performing arts institutions are smaller venues, primarily downtown, but the UES has a few VERY SMALL venues. Where else can you see Barbara Cook or Donny Osmand perform except the UES!

"Location of museums has nothing to do with where artists live (I don't think you're making that point, but one could reasonably infer that here)."

I'm not, so try a different argument...

> Not a strawman argument - you've been predicting a resurgence on the UES!

Bad logic. You need to look up what a straw man argument is.

You making up false reasons why I think A is true, and then "arguing" why they are not correct.

Pretty lame.

> Streeteasy was invented to waste time! Why else would you insist on arguing this relatively
> insignificant point so strongly?

Pot... kettle....

> nyc10022, I wrote THESE performing arts centers were above 34th Street

Ok, so your logic is about three particular performing arts locals to "prove" your generalization about artists overall, with 2 of them not being AT ALL in the neighborhood you are speaking about. Now THAT is a well-argued point!

"I'm not, so try a different argument..."

You don't understand what I wrote in the parentheses, do you?

"Bad logic. You need to look up what a straw man argument is.
You making up false reasons why I think A is true, and then "arguing" why they are not correct."

I know what it is, thankyouverymuch. You harp on the UES being a neighborhood that no one talks about, that nobody wants to live in, and then explain that there will be relative gains to be had here when someone like Madonna moves in. So how is it a strawman argument again?

"Pot... kettle...."

Your standard rote answer when you can't actually address the issue. Again, why the nastiness?

I'm not arguing, nyc10022, I was just generalizing about UWS vs. UES residents. I'm sorry you feel inclined to "argue" about something so unimportant.

> You don't understand what I wrote in the parentheses, do you?

I'm clarifying because you've already made this mistake.... and your strawman problem.

> I know what it is, thankyouverymuch.

Your above post to the contrary.

And then you denying thats what it was AGAIN. Clearly, you are not familiar with the concept, as you keep doing it over and over.

> Your standard rote answer when you can't actually address the issue.

No, my standard answer when you are being a hypocrite. And, doesn't get much more hypocritical than this coming from you:

> Why else would you insist on arguing this relatively
> insignificant point so strongly?

I can't think of a more perfect response to that...

> Again, why the nastiness?

Same response on that one.

I'm sorry you don't like answers being repetitive. But if you keep asking the same ignorant questions...

Well it's clear you'll just repeat the same bs over and over. I'll just echo what PMG said above. It's amazing how some people drop all forms of civility when on an anonymous internet board. Yeesh.

> Well it's clear you'll just repeat the same bs over and over.

pot... kettle.

You've reached new levels of hypocritical... even for you, bjw.

every place will fall.
but some, what I call second tier neighborhoods and second and third tier buildings, the apts in them will not be selling at all. that is the worst part of it.

GoingDown in decreasing order of severity (about 3 years ago) - any comments?
Harlem
FiDi
Lower East Side
Hells Kitchen
Midtown East
Lower Battery Park
Upper East
Upper West
Chelsea
SoHo
Greenwich Village
Tribeca

and still dropping!

Tribeca & Harlem

I think the actual data shows the Tribeca is where it should be per sjtmd. He is saying that 2 years later, this is how it turned out.

I am sure someone who has the energy like Inonada will post the PSF #s from JMiller. But that list looks about right.