Successful price reduction resulting in SALE - demonstrate with comps
Started by jtreadwell
about 17 years ago
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OK - we've seen the discussion on "chasing the market down: our favorite price choppers". How about showing "beating the market down" - that is successful price reductions that resulted in (or you think will result in) a sale.
Presumably there are prospectives out there who see significant enough price reductions to convince them to buy even in this environment where everyone's talking about catching a falling knife.
I haven't looked yet, but I'll set to it now.
Response by West81st
about 17 years ago
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It's really too common to be notable, but here are a few examples from my 'hood:
I don't know whether formal price cuts are more or less effective than silent ones. Personally, I think it's a good idea to leave some room for negotiation, so IMHO price cuts are fine but it's generally best not to cut all the way to the lowest price the seller will accept.
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Response by jtreadwell
about 17 years ago
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Interesting. What do you mean by silent? Just informing everyone who comes in about the new price without changing the listing? Wouldn't that result in potentially less traffic?
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Response by tina24hour
about 17 years ago
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I'm a broker, but I had absolutely nothing to to do with this transaction. I was just following it because I think it's a beautiful apartment, and at less than $1000/sf seemed like a good deal to me. Looks like someone else thought so, too:
We actually saw this apartment. It's absolutely gorgeous. The layout is asinine, though, and the neighborhood is so-so. We saw it in June, when it was still $2.3MM. When they dropped to $2.2MM, it seemed like not enough, but as soon as they went to $2.0MM, it went into contract 2 weeks later. Curious to see if it closes.
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Response by snoop
about 17 years ago
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I think it's not as much an issue of 'successful price reduction' as it is of pricing correctly at the outset.
The following example, for an estate-condition classic 8 in Morningside Hights, illustrates that perfectly - they wasted precious months with over-inflated prices that simply didn't reflect what was happening in the market. That mistake led to their ultimately closing for $650K less than their initial ask.
IMO if they'd priced the apartment more attractively at the outset they'd have likely done considerably better.
It's really too common to be notable, but here are a few examples from my 'hood:
Closed sales:
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/184239-coop-515-west-end-avenue-upper-west-side-new-york
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/215158-coop-50-west-96th-street-upper-west-side-new-york
In contract:
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/193957-coop-470-west-end-avenue-upper-west-side-new-york
I don't know whether formal price cuts are more or less effective than silent ones. Personally, I think it's a good idea to leave some room for negotiation, so IMHO price cuts are fine but it's generally best not to cut all the way to the lowest price the seller will accept.
Interesting. What do you mean by silent? Just informing everyone who comes in about the new price without changing the listing? Wouldn't that result in potentially less traffic?
I'm a broker, but I had absolutely nothing to to do with this transaction. I was just following it because I think it's a beautiful apartment, and at less than $1000/sf seemed like a good deal to me. Looks like someone else thought so, too:
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/277054-coop-135-watts-street-tribeca-new-york
Oh - forgot to mention that it went into contract on 10/17.
How about successful pricing so that the reduction was never necessary?
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/349592-coop-193-second-avenue-east-village-new-york
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/328507-coop-50-avenue-a-east-village-new-york
I was so sure I'd be watching these come down, but they sold tout suite, considering the market.
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/127247-condo-500-west-53rd-street-clinton-new-york
We actually saw this apartment. It's absolutely gorgeous. The layout is asinine, though, and the neighborhood is so-so. We saw it in June, when it was still $2.3MM. When they dropped to $2.2MM, it seemed like not enough, but as soon as they went to $2.0MM, it went into contract 2 weeks later. Curious to see if it closes.
I think it's not as much an issue of 'successful price reduction' as it is of pricing correctly at the outset.
The following example, for an estate-condition classic 8 in Morningside Hights, illustrates that perfectly - they wasted precious months with over-inflated prices that simply didn't reflect what was happening in the market. That mistake led to their ultimately closing for $650K less than their initial ask.
IMO if they'd priced the apartment more attractively at the outset they'd have likely done considerably better.
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/134179-coop-440-riverside-drive-morningside-heights-new-york