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Look at this - insane pricing

Started by cccharley
almost 18 years ago
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http://halstead.com/detail.aspx?id=1045535 Paper said bring any offer - why price it so high? It's also not as big as they say and no way 1000 sf Delusional
Response by Yog
almost 18 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2006

There are two more just like that in this building. 600 days on the market? Yikes.

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/450-east-83-street-new_york

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Response by JohnDoe
almost 18 years ago
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Additionally, 4E was resold in late 06/early 07 for $890K. It looks like the original purchaser overpaid for 3E (the apt in OP's link) to begin with (bought from developer for $1.1M. Hard to see why anyone would pay over $1M for this. And, realistically, given the 4E comp, this apartment may require a 40% chop.

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Response by JohnDoe
almost 18 years ago
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One more thought - this feels a lot like the pricing strategy of mattress stores. Create a very high sticker price to capture the few people who don't know how unrealistic the sticker is, and negotiate down for those who do (the obvious difference here being that this is just one piece of inventory and the strategy would be something more like massively overprice for the small chance one person won't realize how overpriced the place is and will overpay as a consequence.)

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Response by brokersrjokers
almost 18 years ago
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This 'massive overprice' technique is very popular now-sellers and brokers think it will protect them when the inevitable chopping starts
25% off a ridiculously unreasonable price is still an unreasonable price (and a nice profit). Look at 25D in this bldg-they were trying to turn a 25% profit from 2006 and now with a significant reduction, all they are asking for is a 20% 2 year profit.

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Response by buster2056
almost 18 years ago
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True - I think in many cases sellers/brokers are expecting bids 20-30% below ask on anything, so they are bumping prices up even harder. It's hilarious!

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Response by cccharley
almost 18 years ago
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Response by buster2056
almost 18 years ago
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$16m for yorkville? Priceless!

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Response by cccharley
almost 18 years ago
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could it be a mistake? They upped it by 10 million

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Response by brokersrjokers
almost 18 years ago
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No-I think they struck oil in this apt.-so you get an oil well to go with the gold leaf trim and great views! Once that second avenue subway comes (any year now), you can ship your oil out of yorkville and the price of this place will really take off.

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Response by cccharley
almost 18 years ago
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Would you like to buy some shares in the Brooklyn Bridge?

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Response by brokersrjokers
almost 18 years ago
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Would you like to buy some insanely overpriced condos near the Brooklyn bridge?

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Response by cccharley
almost 18 years ago
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touche!

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Response by stevejhx
almost 18 years ago
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The first one is 700 square feet at most. The $16 million one - LMAO. Maybe I'll just sell some stock that just lost 60% of its value so I can buy an apartment that will lose 80% of its value. Sounds like a great investment opportunity.

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Response by anonymous
almost 18 years ago

many brokers just dont know how to create value in the eyes of the buyer. Its a shame that at this price it will most probably stay on the market for another 600 days. OUCH

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Response by nyc10022
almost 18 years ago
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"This 'massive overprice' technique is very popular now-sellers and brokers think it will protect them when the inevitable chopping starts "

Problem is, it will backfire. When the market will see all these massive price cuts, buyers will flee even more. We're likely to see serious OVERcorrection.

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Response by cccharley
almost 18 years ago
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I hope so

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Response by waverly
almost 18 years ago
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The overprice technique is just dumb and is not going to fool anyone who can use the Google and the internets.

I would imagine that there is almost always some sort of "overcorrection" when a market bottoms-out before it moves forward again. Does anyone have any previous examples of this in NYC?

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Response by nyc10022
almost 18 years ago
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Anecdotally, absolutely. Some 5th ave co-ops (70s) sold for $1 in the 70s bottom. In all the worst years, you could pick things up for less than rental costs. At the time, they might not have *seemed* like overcorrections, but after the fact they made sense vs. renting in a number of ways...

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