Obama had more than enough time to come up with financial solution - he failed miserably
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Obama could have been an economic hero instead he gives us literally ...nothing!!. he's too busy having his shirts pressed and tweaking those surround sound vocals. Obama is all flash and no substance. All you people who voted for him have been had. Now have a wonderful day and please don't hesitate to defend your pathetic president.
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Response by julia
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I voted for him..no regrets...not crazy how he's handling the economy..it feels he's still in campaign mode but I'm willing to give him as much time as he needs. We have no choice!!!
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Response by charltop
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yeah he's awful. Sarah Palin would have sorted this all out by now, you betcha
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Response by tech_guy
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Personally I wish for 8 more years of Bush. We know with 100% confidence that he'd never waste his time going around giving amazing speeches. We also know he couldn't *possibly* screw up the economy worse than he already did the past 8 years. Win-win!
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Response by hypnotik
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the guy's been in office for literally a month, chill out. Iraq war cost more than the bailout so shut the f up.
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Response by steveF
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hypnotik okay Dude.
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Response by mildly_shriveled
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Your fixation on his devil may care charisma and swashbuckling good looks make me a bit uneasy for you. I mean sure he's handsome, has that George Cloony cant take your eyes off him sort of appeal, has that obama girl singing about his desirability - but even if I thought such thoughts - like about his smoldering steal eyed glare - I would never admit such things on a Streeteasy post.
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Response by kylewest
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I thought this Obama guy was supposed to be SO much better than Bush! But he isn't. It took Bush about 2 years or more to completely f-up this country, and eventually to screw pretty much the world. Now Obama "the savior" is going to need more than 30 days to fix the world Bush broke? Please. If it takes Obama 2 years to make it better, is he really any more skilled than Bush who took 2 years to screw it up? Man, democrats have such double standards! And yes, charltop, it is so obvious that a man two-generations out of touch with most Americans and his Tina Fey look-alike friend could have fixed this mess by now--abracadabra whammo! fixed! Just like magic! Because Republicans are MAGIC! Duh.
Hypnotik, I'm with you--what is wrong with people?
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Response by LICComment
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Obama has done some things well so far and he's had some significant missteps so far. The stimulus bill is one of the most important pieces of legislation in decades and I don't think he has handled it very well. This does not mean I think Bush did a good job - we know his administration, along with lots of others from both parties, screwed up a lot of things when it came to the financial crisis. Let's hope Obama finds his footing and can skillfully execute centrist-based policies, and let's hope the negative effects of the stimulus plan don't outweigh its benefits.
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Response by nyc10022
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Bush clearly made a mess, but Obama could have picked up the ball a little better.
Geithner, Daschle, McKinsey Lady, Gov. Richardson nominations, all bungled. Financial plan with no, uh, plan... not so well handled. Stimulus, it was clearly going to be a mess but the guy outsourced it to Congress, who helped create the mess in the first place.
He could have done worse, for sure, but hopefully these are just initial stumbles on the way to a better presidency. Problem is, he's running out of time to change course... once he loses confidence, its going to be tougher to get anything done.
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Response by nyc10022
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other problem is, its not nearly as funny to make fun of Obama's missteps. All the comedians are democrats...
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Response by waverly
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Kylewest, hypnotik - I agree completely.
I always find it humorous when people who spent 8 years(Republicans in Congress I'm looking at you!) throwing money at Iraq, stripping the financial services industry of much of it's regulatory teeth, giving tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans and tax rebates to people who wanted to buy hummers (the car not the other thing) try to suddenly give the impression that they give a crap about spending, debt and the American family....Priceless!
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Response by steveF
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midly_shriveled...shhhh....go back to sleep now....you don't have to get up for another couple of hours....:D i luv you people.
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Response by mimi
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SteveF has a repressed sexual attraction for Obama. Psychology 101...drawn by the dangerous "otherness"...his ambiguous attraction makes him act out and write this post, leaking the key arousal word "surround"...then he has to hit Obama baby one more time...probably he does the same with his dates. He has been writing this kind of superficial BS about Obama since the campaign days.
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Response by columbiacounty
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mind boggling.
obama has said many times that there is no easy fix. and yet, there are millions, no doubt tens of million of people who think just like stevef. people are not only scared to death but are reevaluating their behavior and assumptions. that will of necessity take time. obama is not the problem. we are the problem. and not just the stevef's of the world.
all of us contributed to this mess including those who came before george bush.
why did we think that everything would go up and up and up? makes very little sense now and it made very little sense then.
lets take responsibility and not lay it on any individual.
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Response by waverly
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That's it. I am giving Obama until Tuesday at 2:15 pm to fix the economy. I am tired of the recession. He's had plenty of time. What we really need is a wartime president who likes to clear brush. Now, where can we find one of those? Hmmmm....oh, wait....nevermind.
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Response by kylewest
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You're 100% correct columbia! It is so wrong to ascribe blame to Bush or the Republicans. Let's make sure we spread it around in the name of moral relativism and fairness so those in positions of leadership and control during arguably the most catostrophic 8 years of American history are assigned no more blame than me at my desk or the minority party or the coal miner in Apalachia.
Every mistake in history--from the beginning of mankind--contributed to where we are now, so leave BUSH ALONE! It is all of our faults. Yup. That's the ticket. Everyone sleep better at night now?
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Response by mimi
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Agree totally, Columbia.
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Response by happyrenter
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it's just a joke. he hasn't been president for a month yet and already he's responsible for the collapse of the world financial system, the global recession, the lack of bipartisanship in washington, the culture of corruption, and, what else, maybe world poverty, the environmental crisis...want to come up with a few more things to pin on him? 30 days is enough time to come up with and implement a solution for a global financial collapse? incredible. maybe stevef thinks we will have a cure for cancer in 80 days and an AIDS vaccine a few weeks later to go with it.
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Response by nyc10022
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> stripping the financial services industry of much of it's regulatory teeth
Huh? Clinton ended Glass Steagal. And check out Barney Frank's rant on "Fannie is fine"...
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Response by type3secretion
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"SteveF has a repressed sexual attraction for Obama. Psychology 101...drawn by the dangerous "otherness"...his ambiguous attraction makes him act out and write this post, leaking the key arousal word "surround"..."
On one ugly day, a hearty LOL!
I think I need some "surrounding" tonight!
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Response by julia
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The way the media goes after political people we'll never get anyone who has new ideas...Obama is retreading the same old democratic ideas but again, Bush, McCain would be much, much worse...let's give him a chance.
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Response by nyc10022
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I don't know what you guys are talking about, but there is no stock market decline. I've been out there on "the market" for months trying to buy and I haven't seen any reductions. Maybe at the very top stocks, like Google. But for the average buyer, the prices are the same. I'm still waiting for this decline everyone is talking about.
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Response by mimi
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nyc10022 I see you are looking for bargains... did you try buying last september? I believe stocks went really down back then...I suppose the perspective of a possible Obama presidency was the cause of that decline too....
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Response by JuiceMan
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"obama has said many times that there is no easy fix."
Yes, over and over and over again. He has scared the shit out of people. I want him to succeed but I don't have confidence in him or the entire lot of Washington assholes. We cannot rely on Washington to fix this, there has to be another way.
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Response by columbiacounty
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yes....there is.
patience and realistic expectations.
we have spent and spent and spent without having the money. we had an idiot president who started two wars and lowered taxes at the same time. we borrowed money from all comers and bid the price of real estate up and up and up.
what do you want obama to say? that everything is great...that he has a clear plan that will allow us to go back to the way things were? that would be worse.
the guy is telling us the truth but you and many, many others don't like it. hey, i don't like it either but the sooner we are clear about the problem the sooner we can begin to fix it. very much like discovering you have a serious illness....life may never be the same again but by facing it, you have a chance of regaining much of your health.
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Response by w67thstreet
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BUSH likes to clear brush... anyone else find that funny?
I'll kill this thread with one statement: Look in the mirror and ask yourselves... did I save enough over the last 10 years? nuff said...
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Response by w67thstreet
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On a happier note, apparently the depression is making it easier to find tee times :) and lowering fees... now i-banker/nanny/tranny go get me a lemonade.... my kids are thirsty.
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Response by upperwestrenter
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I have an idea...all these idiots who want to think things go back to the way they were, move to Russia.
At least finding a spot in nyc would be easier, and I don't have to wait in lines at the movies and listen to you eat your popcorn in the seat next to me (munch munch munch)
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Response by julia
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w67street...you're the best..love your postings.
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Thxs Julia, have a greeaaat weeekend! and to the rest of the gang, see you at the open houses... where'd I put my ferragamos?
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Response by happyrenter
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you're right--obama is scaring the shit out of everyone. no one is scared by, oh, 13% year over year GDP decline in Japan, rapidly rising unemployment in the US, the near-collapse of the international financial system, the almost total death of the US real-estate market, and the 40%+ declines on global stock indices before he even took office. nope, none of that is scary at all. it's all obama telling people that there is no easy fix, that's what's frightening.
juiceman, you say 'there has to be another way' to solve all of our problems. actually, no. there is no way to solve all of our problems. the president is trying to make things better, individuals can change their behavior to make things better, but the truth is that we are going to have to suffer for a while and there is no way around it. this idea that there 'has to be' a way to turn everything around is just magical thinking. there doesn't have to be a way. sometimes there is no way.
I voted for him..no regrets...not crazy how he's handling the economy..it feels he's still in campaign mode but I'm willing to give him as much time as he needs. We have no choice!!!
yeah he's awful. Sarah Palin would have sorted this all out by now, you betcha
Personally I wish for 8 more years of Bush. We know with 100% confidence that he'd never waste his time going around giving amazing speeches. We also know he couldn't *possibly* screw up the economy worse than he already did the past 8 years. Win-win!
the guy's been in office for literally a month, chill out. Iraq war cost more than the bailout so shut the f up.
hypnotik okay Dude.
Your fixation on his devil may care charisma and swashbuckling good looks make me a bit uneasy for you. I mean sure he's handsome, has that George Cloony cant take your eyes off him sort of appeal, has that obama girl singing about his desirability - but even if I thought such thoughts - like about his smoldering steal eyed glare - I would never admit such things on a Streeteasy post.
I thought this Obama guy was supposed to be SO much better than Bush! But he isn't. It took Bush about 2 years or more to completely f-up this country, and eventually to screw pretty much the world. Now Obama "the savior" is going to need more than 30 days to fix the world Bush broke? Please. If it takes Obama 2 years to make it better, is he really any more skilled than Bush who took 2 years to screw it up? Man, democrats have such double standards! And yes, charltop, it is so obvious that a man two-generations out of touch with most Americans and his Tina Fey look-alike friend could have fixed this mess by now--abracadabra whammo! fixed! Just like magic! Because Republicans are MAGIC! Duh.
Hypnotik, I'm with you--what is wrong with people?
Obama has done some things well so far and he's had some significant missteps so far. The stimulus bill is one of the most important pieces of legislation in decades and I don't think he has handled it very well. This does not mean I think Bush did a good job - we know his administration, along with lots of others from both parties, screwed up a lot of things when it came to the financial crisis. Let's hope Obama finds his footing and can skillfully execute centrist-based policies, and let's hope the negative effects of the stimulus plan don't outweigh its benefits.
Bush clearly made a mess, but Obama could have picked up the ball a little better.
Geithner, Daschle, McKinsey Lady, Gov. Richardson nominations, all bungled. Financial plan with no, uh, plan... not so well handled. Stimulus, it was clearly going to be a mess but the guy outsourced it to Congress, who helped create the mess in the first place.
He could have done worse, for sure, but hopefully these are just initial stumbles on the way to a better presidency. Problem is, he's running out of time to change course... once he loses confidence, its going to be tougher to get anything done.
other problem is, its not nearly as funny to make fun of Obama's missteps. All the comedians are democrats...
Kylewest, hypnotik - I agree completely.
I always find it humorous when people who spent 8 years(Republicans in Congress I'm looking at you!) throwing money at Iraq, stripping the financial services industry of much of it's regulatory teeth, giving tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans and tax rebates to people who wanted to buy hummers (the car not the other thing) try to suddenly give the impression that they give a crap about spending, debt and the American family....Priceless!
midly_shriveled...shhhh....go back to sleep now....you don't have to get up for another couple of hours....:D i luv you people.
SteveF has a repressed sexual attraction for Obama. Psychology 101...drawn by the dangerous "otherness"...his ambiguous attraction makes him act out and write this post, leaking the key arousal word "surround"...then he has to hit Obama baby one more time...probably he does the same with his dates. He has been writing this kind of superficial BS about Obama since the campaign days.
mind boggling.
obama has said many times that there is no easy fix. and yet, there are millions, no doubt tens of million of people who think just like stevef. people are not only scared to death but are reevaluating their behavior and assumptions. that will of necessity take time. obama is not the problem. we are the problem. and not just the stevef's of the world.
all of us contributed to this mess including those who came before george bush.
why did we think that everything would go up and up and up? makes very little sense now and it made very little sense then.
lets take responsibility and not lay it on any individual.
That's it. I am giving Obama until Tuesday at 2:15 pm to fix the economy. I am tired of the recession. He's had plenty of time. What we really need is a wartime president who likes to clear brush. Now, where can we find one of those? Hmmmm....oh, wait....nevermind.
You're 100% correct columbia! It is so wrong to ascribe blame to Bush or the Republicans. Let's make sure we spread it around in the name of moral relativism and fairness so those in positions of leadership and control during arguably the most catostrophic 8 years of American history are assigned no more blame than me at my desk or the minority party or the coal miner in Apalachia.
Every mistake in history--from the beginning of mankind--contributed to where we are now, so leave BUSH ALONE! It is all of our faults. Yup. That's the ticket. Everyone sleep better at night now?
Agree totally, Columbia.
it's just a joke. he hasn't been president for a month yet and already he's responsible for the collapse of the world financial system, the global recession, the lack of bipartisanship in washington, the culture of corruption, and, what else, maybe world poverty, the environmental crisis...want to come up with a few more things to pin on him? 30 days is enough time to come up with and implement a solution for a global financial collapse? incredible. maybe stevef thinks we will have a cure for cancer in 80 days and an AIDS vaccine a few weeks later to go with it.
> stripping the financial services industry of much of it's regulatory teeth
Huh? Clinton ended Glass Steagal. And check out Barney Frank's rant on "Fannie is fine"...
"SteveF has a repressed sexual attraction for Obama. Psychology 101...drawn by the dangerous "otherness"...his ambiguous attraction makes him act out and write this post, leaking the key arousal word "surround"..."
On one ugly day, a hearty LOL!
I think I need some "surrounding" tonight!
The way the media goes after political people we'll never get anyone who has new ideas...Obama is retreading the same old democratic ideas but again, Bush, McCain would be much, much worse...let's give him a chance.
I don't know what you guys are talking about, but there is no stock market decline. I've been out there on "the market" for months trying to buy and I haven't seen any reductions. Maybe at the very top stocks, like Google. But for the average buyer, the prices are the same. I'm still waiting for this decline everyone is talking about.
nyc10022 I see you are looking for bargains... did you try buying last september? I believe stocks went really down back then...I suppose the perspective of a possible Obama presidency was the cause of that decline too....
"obama has said many times that there is no easy fix."
Yes, over and over and over again. He has scared the shit out of people. I want him to succeed but I don't have confidence in him or the entire lot of Washington assholes. We cannot rely on Washington to fix this, there has to be another way.
yes....there is.
patience and realistic expectations.
we have spent and spent and spent without having the money. we had an idiot president who started two wars and lowered taxes at the same time. we borrowed money from all comers and bid the price of real estate up and up and up.
what do you want obama to say? that everything is great...that he has a clear plan that will allow us to go back to the way things were? that would be worse.
the guy is telling us the truth but you and many, many others don't like it. hey, i don't like it either but the sooner we are clear about the problem the sooner we can begin to fix it. very much like discovering you have a serious illness....life may never be the same again but by facing it, you have a chance of regaining much of your health.
BUSH likes to clear brush... anyone else find that funny?
I'll kill this thread with one statement: Look in the mirror and ask yourselves... did I save enough over the last 10 years? nuff said...
On a happier note, apparently the depression is making it easier to find tee times :) and lowering fees... now i-banker/nanny/tranny go get me a lemonade.... my kids are thirsty.
I have an idea...all these idiots who want to think things go back to the way they were, move to Russia.
At least finding a spot in nyc would be easier, and I don't have to wait in lines at the movies and listen to you eat your popcorn in the seat next to me (munch munch munch)
Morons
w67street...you're the best..love your postings.
Thxs Julia, have a greeaaat weeekend! and to the rest of the gang, see you at the open houses... where'd I put my ferragamos?
you're right--obama is scaring the shit out of everyone. no one is scared by, oh, 13% year over year GDP decline in Japan, rapidly rising unemployment in the US, the near-collapse of the international financial system, the almost total death of the US real-estate market, and the 40%+ declines on global stock indices before he even took office. nope, none of that is scary at all. it's all obama telling people that there is no easy fix, that's what's frightening.
juiceman, you say 'there has to be another way' to solve all of our problems. actually, no. there is no way to solve all of our problems. the president is trying to make things better, individuals can change their behavior to make things better, but the truth is that we are going to have to suffer for a while and there is no way around it. this idea that there 'has to be' a way to turn everything around is just magical thinking. there doesn't have to be a way. sometimes there is no way.
Good weekend to all!