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building at 860 Fifth Avenue

Started by Tate1
about 16 years ago
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Considering apartment 11E in this building. Has anyone had experience with 860 Fifth Avenue? Are there standard Fifth Avenue financial requirements? Sincere thanks.
Response by dwell
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Hi Tate,

I'd like to know too.

Have you seen 3M? A couple of $ more than 11E. Have you actually seen any apts here?

What do you think are the downsides of living on 5th? Have to walk to Lex to get anything & I like to go to the deli at midnight for sorbet. But I love the idea of being so close to CP.

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Response by Tate1
about 16 years ago
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Hi dwell,

I have seen two apartments in the building. It is, of course, desirable to be in the front of the building.

I have found it tricky to ascertain the financial requirements to get into the building.

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Response by dwell
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Tate,

Why do you say it's tricky? The broker should tell you the $ reqs. I think it's like 2xs liquid assets, but, verify.

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Response by Tate1
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Dwell,

It seems that financial requirements have changed markedly over the last few years. I was told a few years ago (by a building resident) that the board sought liquid assets over $20 mn regardless of purchase price.

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Response by ph41
about 16 years ago
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I know nothing in partiular about this building, but looking at past sales, most in a pretty moderate range under $2MM, it is very hard to believe they require $20mm liquid assets (current owners probably don't have that). Building resident was probably trying to puff up his (her) importance

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Response by Tate1
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Makes sense, ph41. Do you know the building?

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Response by ph41
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Don't personally know it - seems a sort of a standard building (i.e.not a prestigious pre-war) - fairly generid layouts - higher prices definitely for park views (but the 2nd floor 2/2 with a 9'X40' terrace went for only $1.3MM - no park view)

But if you really want the Fifth Avenue address, and don't insist on park views, you could probably get a fairly good deal

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Response by columbiacounty
about 16 years ago
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I know nothing in partiular about this building

Don't personally know it

yet...you know that you can get a good deal? what, pray tell, are you basing that on?

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Response by ph41
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wll,cc - fifth avenue address, below 86street, with very large terrace, for 1.3 is, I think, a fairly good deal. Without terrace, $1-1.1 - might even tempt Rhino86

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Response by ph41
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Actually, VERY prime 5th avenue location, and asking $1.3? without park view, yup would think that is doable.

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Response by columbiacounty
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perhaps you should buy it...an investment.

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Response by ph41
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Nope - it's a coop,(can't rent it out), and it wouldn't work as an office for my husband when he retires.(I have been looking for that, actually) and I love my own apartment way too much. Can't give up the space, terraces,and fireplace fireplace.

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Response by ph41
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Sorryt, just one fireplace

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Response by clt89
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I lived at 875 5th for several years. A co-op that required 50% down and relatively strong financials, but not like a 740 park type of building where you need $50mm-$100mm of liquid assets. I think 860 is similar but I could be wrong.

But I can tell you that unless you are over 75 and have your maid get all your groceries, etc., 5th avenue is pretty boring for the typical non-magnate homeowner. You are 3 blocks from any real life: 5th has nothing, Madison if you want a dress, park has nothing, lex has some restaurants. Of course, many people would disagree with me, but I found it stiffling. Especially dealing with the wannabe board members who want to make their building more exclusive. And having a park view means your over 5th avenue, and it is noisier than you would imagine.

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Response by columbiacounty
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but, it's huge....and you do have multiple terraces so its not a complete loss.

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Response by ph41
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ch89 - 875 is a 1939 Emery Roth (so just barely pre-war, but still pre-war) unlike 860

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Response by ph41
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cc- that last common made absolutely no sense, except perhaps to you.

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Response by clt89
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I lived there for 5 years and never knew it was an emery roth building. pretty non-descript

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Response by clt89
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although we did have phil donahue and "that girl" in the penthouse.
They were allowed to keep their 3 golden retrievers, but I wasn't allowed to have a cat.

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Response by columbiacounty
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take a look at this link:

http://www.thecityreview.com/ues/fifave/fif875.htm

think penthouse lady has had a little too much wine this evening?

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Response by ph41
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no CC - trusted the info on the building's site., which states 1939 by emery roth - guess brokers lie

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Response by ph41
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ch89- the u;nfair advantages of fame - but THREE dogs? Did they at least make them use the service elevator when walking the dogs?

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Response by columbiacounty
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well. who knows? this link says 1941. the point i'm trying to make is that one should be careful about throwing around opinions as facts.

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Response by ph41
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cc: look at the apartments listed for sale - and what they have put out there.

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Response by ph41
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Thanks CC: kind of like being known as "penthouse lady"

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Response by columbiacounty
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it fits you perfectly.

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Response by ph41
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Thougj we've never met, I'm flattered that you think so.

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Response by ph41
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Though no, I don't have a Hermes Birkin.

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Response by ph41
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CC- you do know what that is, don't you?

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Response by columbiacounty
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why don't you say what you mean? go for it.

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Response by ph41
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Just asked a simple question - really have no idea what "you mean"

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Response by columbiacounty
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so...you ask me if i know what an expensive handbag is? seems pretty snotty to me. what is your point? is it a good thing that i know what it is or a bad thing?

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Response by ph41
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good thing - especially if you want to buy one for your wife.

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Response by ph41
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Though it might be overkill in upstate NY

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Response by ph41
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Actually , it's overkill for me.

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Response by columbiacounty
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don't be so sure you know anything about me. so...its a good thing that i know what an expensive hand bag is? why?

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Response by ph41
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It's always good to be plugged in to the larger world. Sales of that level of handbag could give some inkling of the economic future in NY Didn't you read about the Hermes shoppers who asked to have their purchases put into generic shopping bags, so people wouldn't know they'd been spending major money at Hermes?

Actually, my husband has no clue as to what Hermes is.

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Response by columbiacounty
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frankly, your stereotyping of new yorkers makes me very uncomfortable.

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Response by ph41
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Hey, most of them sterotype themselves

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Response by columbiacounty
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if your idea of being plugged into the larger world is defined by knowing about expensive handbags....well, i wouldn't go around bragging about that.

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Response by ph41
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And where did you live before you left NY for the wilds of upstate NY?

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Response by columbiacounty
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the wilds of upstate new york?

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Response by columbiacounty
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i thought you were plugged into the larger world.

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Response by ph41
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I am - are you?

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Response by columbiacounty
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according to you i thought i passed the test.

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Response by ph41
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Not really - do you see any plays in NY? Broadway, offBroadway, off-off Broadway? Any dance? How often do you actually dine in NY restaurants? Do you really call yourself a New Yorker?

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Response by ph41
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OK - ex New Yorker

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Response by columbiacounty
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so the handbag wasn't good enough? do i need a full size washer/dryer also?

born and raised not good enough for you? need to attend concerts at avery fischer hall to make your grade? are you kidding?

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Response by ph41
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Not really - but come on - you are way out of the city, and yes, being involved in NYC life makes one a New Yorker, and sorry , you no longer really qualify.

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Response by hfscomm1
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well well well, ph41 who aboutready thinks is me but who says she abhors me and what I've done on this site is having a little spat with old miserable flatulent columbiacounty.

well well well

Normally I wouldn't even look at a thread about a particular building , but I'm glad I did.

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Response by columbiacounty
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how far away am i? wow, have you had a lot to drink or are you like this naturally?

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Response by ph41
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You are very far away - do you usually just come in for a play or a concert? Let's get real.

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Response by columbiacounty
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so how many plays and concerts would qualify me?

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Response by ph41
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OH Christ - hfs is piggybacking again -

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Response by hfscomm1
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yup, ph41, you are above it all. For some reason the same people who dislike me dislike you. Hmmmmmm

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Response by ph41
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cc- at least 3/4 month.

FWIW - we average 2 a week

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Response by hfscomm1
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Oh, I'm going to go to columbiacounty's side on this, Ms. Hoity Toity.

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Response by columbiacounty
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so working in manhattan doesn't qualify? only attending cultural events?

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Response by columbiacounty
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what about raising kids? where does that fit in?

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Response by hfscomm1
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Yeah ph41, working in Manhattan doesn't qualify, only attenting cultural events?
what about raising kids? huh? where does that fit in?
yeah!

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Response by hfscomm1
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hey columbiacounty, we are good together at this.

like I've always said, two peas in a pod

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Response by ph41
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This is so funny - now hfs is going afer me!!

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Response by ph41
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cc - did you work in Manhattan - I and my husband both did, and we are stil here, unlike you.,

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Response by columbiacounty
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as i said, it is amazing how much you think you know about me. when, of course, you know nothing.

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Response by ph41
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Actually, we're still here despite the fact that my husband has to do a reverse commute. He wouldN'T move to nj or upstate ny under any circumstances.

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Response by hfscomm1
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thanks cc, right on.

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Response by ph41
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hfscomm- just give it up - you are so sick it is truly unbelievable

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Response by hfscomm1
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wait a minute, are columbiacounty and ph41 the same person?

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Response by alanhart
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hi hfscomm1

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Response by columbiacounty
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got rid of some of it.

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Response by ph41
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no cc: you are no longer a New Yorker - don't know your zipcode but am fairly sure you don't qualify

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Response by hfscomm1
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no, columbiacounty is a NYer, trust me.

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Response by columbiacounty
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so...how does that work? do you no longer qualify the minute you leave? what happens when you come back?

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Response by ph41
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Yes you left = when you come back you are a New Yorker. Sorry that;s the way it is

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Response by columbiacounty
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so...if you go away for the weekend? are you kidding?

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Response by columbiacounty
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i wish my accountant agreed with you.

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hi hfscomm1

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hi hfscomm1

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Response by ph41
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Oh please CC - obviously not weekend people who mnaintain a primary NY residence = but we are talking about people who have left the city, as you have. You maintain a pied a terre? So you can enjoy all the cultural offerings of the city?

Don't think so

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Response by columbiacounty
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how could you possibly know?

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Response by hfscomm1
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oh ph41 please

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Response by ph41
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possibly you stay with AR when you come into NY?

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hi hfscomm1

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hi hfscomm1

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Response by ph41
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CC - I don't know - so tell me

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hi hfscomm1

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Response by hfscomm1
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ph41, I'll text you too

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Response by alanhart
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hi hfscomm1

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Response by ph41
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I'm gone - can't do this - totalally highujacked by hfs.

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Response by hfscomm1
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yeah, I guess I really destroyed the nasty irrational fight you and columbiacounty were having.

So sorry

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Response by alanhart
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hi hfscomm1

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Response by ph41
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CC - this is scary - hfs posted that we were having a "nasty irrational fight"

How do we react? What do we do?

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Response by columbiacounty
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put it on ignore and move on.

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Response by ph41
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on this one i will take your advice

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Response by ph41
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CC - raising kids in manhattsan absoolutely qualifies - just working here does not.

Kids living here see and are exposed to so many things - hopefully many cultural things (as are our nephews in Boston) music, museums, fabulous kid stuff, theater)

Just working here doesn't do that

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Response by columbiacounty
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did you raise your kids here?

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Did you?

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Response by columbiacounty
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oh yes...

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Response by ph41
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Then we need your wisdom (however outdated) here

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however outdated? did you grow up in manhattan?

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