What does she mean by environmental racism?

WHo knows, but seems like she would suck at Sim City, which should really simply be the test to determine who should be mayor:

http://nymag.com/arts/architecture/features/sim-city-justin-davidson-2013-4/

Pretty much since the beginning of the industrial era, capitalism has exploited natural resources, then privatized the profits (put them into only a few hands) while leaving the public sector (you and me) to pay the costs.

And the public sector then forces the costs (ie polluted areas, clean-up costs) onto the least powerful, ie the poorest and least influential among us. That has often meant non-white people -- black, brown, etc.

Even people who devoutly believe in capitalism -- as if it were a religion -- often acknowledge this pattern and realize it needs to change.

Only white people generate garbage?

Are you being intentionally obtuse? Or do you really not understand how it is discriminatory to shield a wealthier and largely homogeneous population from something unpleasant that will then be foisted off onto a poorer neighborhood? When all benefit from the services?

Huh! Ever hear of "highest and best use"? Under Quinn's rationale, we should convert the Hudson Yards to a huge landfill dump. Or maybe use the median on Park Avenue as collection points for recyclables!

A new waste transfer station is almost completed on 31st Avenue in College Point. When the community complained on safety and environmental grounds, the Little S**t (oops, I mean The Emperor Our Mayor)made his usual statements about everybody bearing their "fair share" (hey, where's the transfer station on East 79th Street?) The transfer station will be less than 500 feet from the end of the runway at LaGuardia. Bird strikes, anyone? Even Capt. Sullenberger came out against this location. I just wanted to assure you that this administration can make stupid, short-sighted, tone-deaf decisions in Queens, too. I suppose we'll be hearing from Speaker Quinn (the Co-Dependent Enabler of the Little S**T) that people in northern Queens are environmental racists, too.

>Huh! Ever hear of "highest and best use"? Under Quinn's rationale, we should convert the Hudson Yards to a huge landfill dump. Or maybe use the median on Park Avenue as collection points for recyclables!

Exactly.
Why destroy better areas when there are lower value areas to use?

The only racist/elitist here is Christine Quinee, which is not a surprise if you look at her track record. She is also the same person who helped shepherd in a luxury condo development in the Village while getting rid of a hospital. She is a true politician in every negative sense of the word and her contrived use of the words environmental "racism" is a perfect example. This marine transfer station will turn out to be Quinn's Achilles' heel. This is the wrong project, in the wrong place and will cost the city more than a billion dollars it doesn't have. By Quinn's logic, two wrongs do make a right - the kids in the North Bronx have ashtma, therefore we will give the kids in East Harlem asthma! Everyone's a winner! Even a child knows this logic doesn't work. Quinn has been backed into a corner and is now using a fictitious racism card.

I highly recommend everyone take a look at the website, www.pledge2protectnyc.org. This site does a great job of explaining the facts around this garbage facility and the lies Quinn is spreading. The facts are, that Quinn wants to put a ten story garbage facility immediately above flood zone A, in a desely populated neighborhood that borders East Harlem and the poorest parts of Yorkville. This part of the river esplanade is where people from East Harlem and Yorkville take their kids biking, where immigrants go fishing, etc. I invite anyone to walk around this area at night. Quinn should be ashamed of using the racism word as on any given night, the people who are using the esplanade are minorities. The trash facility is a stone's throw away from a housing project, Metropolitan Hospital and schools. Here's a solution to the alleged environmental "racism" - put the trash facility near the Mayor's townhous on 79th Street!

Quinn chose this location for the perfect reason - the same reason that these kinds of locations are always chosen - this is a poor neighborhood and she thought she could slip this in without much of a protest. I hope Quinn's minions are reading the comments on this site. I welcome the opportunity to take a walk with her in the area surrounding the proposed site and to show her why she is wrong. I doubt she would change her mind as she must have made some sort of Faustian deal with the sanitation union to get this station but maybe, just maybe, if she sees the potential consequences of her actions, she will reverse course. The offer stands.

Quinn chose this location? She was nobody when the city chose it.

Do you really think we'd be listening to all this too-late whining, and all this pandering by the other five, if the city had built a pier at the end of E 99th, where there's already a garbage-truck garage, instead of closer to Gracie Mansion?

Literally nobody. That 91st Street MTS was running as far back as the 1960s. The current plans go back as far as 2004: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9806E6DE153BF93BA35753C1A9629C8B63&smid=pl-share

"WHo knows, but seems like she would suck at Sim City, which should really simply be the test to determine who should be mayor"

Ottawa, I love Sim City, but the latest one is a piece of garbage. Not just the always-online DRM nonsense, but they've changed how they "want" you to build cities. It's all low-rise automobile-centric suburbia. I really miss SC2000 and 3000. Those are amazing, and you can actually build a NYC with those.

"Poorest parts of Yorkville." That's rich.

>"Poorest parts of Yorkville." That's rich.

What did you think of this statement originally quoted: "It's meant truck after truck after truck rolling through places like Williamsburg and the south Bronx, "

...Williamsburg in the same beath as the south Bronx

What's a beath?

B'burg until fairly recently was very rough, although I think the crime levels were lower than the South Bronx for some time. I'm a strong proponent of investment in the South Bronx, I think it offers one of the best roi opportunities in the area. So that's what I think. Yorkville is hardly poor. Chelsea has numerous projects yet it can hardly be called a poor neighborhood. Put it at 14th and the west side highway. See what would ensue.

Better yet, further south. That would be fun, the "liberals" in TriBeCa dealing with this.

Nobody wants it. It has to be done somewhere, with some efficiency.

a beath is a breath without the 'r' before the 'e'.

>It has to be done somewhere, with some efficiency.

It sure does. But as the desirable upper east side expands, does this location really make sense?

Does any location that is populated "make sense?" And make sense to whom? Is it the number of people affected, the property values affected, what's your criteria? It should be a cost-benefit analysis, but that won't make many people in the selected area happy. Face it, nobody wants it, but Yorkville is hardly a disempowered underrepresented ghetto. That's why we are hearing so much about this on this board. If it were in Quuens or the Bronx there would not be a thread. Which speaks to the original questions posed by this thread.

> If it were in Quuens or the Bronx there would not be a thread.

Why?
Because Quinn wouldn't have called opposition to it "environmental racism?"
Because Queens is huge compared to Manhattan and has more room for this?
Because the Bronx doesn't have the property values of Manhattan and therefore it would be more sensible to place it there?

>but Yorkville is hardly a disempowered underrepresented ghetto.

Underrepresented? What does that even mean? NYC no longer has a Board of Estimate. Each Boro is entitled to proportionate representation based on population.

As for "disempowered", if you look at areas where dollars flow to the population, you'd be hard pressed to make this case.

maybe that people don't make a mess when all the trash goes to Bronx, but as soon as it hits the area around asphalt green, all hell breaks lose.

>maybe that people don't make a mess when all the trash goes to Bronx, but as soon as it hits the area around asphalt green, all hell breaks lose.

Perhaps

Maybe because 30k kids or more attends asphalt green, from several schools across the city....MTS in the area is KIDS RACISM.

I bet she likes dogs more than kids.

What exactly is her strategy? Exactly who is pro-Quinn?

Eskimos.

Apparently C. Virginia Fields is opposed to the Marine Transfer Station on the UES.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/35532-citibike-environmental-racism

se, why?