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building at 250 Mercer Street

Started by 300_mercer
over 15 years ago
Posts: 10570
Member since: Feb 2007
Does any one know why the maintenance in the building is so high relative to other doorman buildings? In addition, it continues to go up 8-10% every year.
Response by wvresident
over 15 years ago
Posts: 8
Member since: Jun 2009

It has a huge mortgage on the building at a very high interest rate with a restrictive refinancing penalty. I've been told that they have been trying unsuccessfully to get out from underneath the mortgage for several months, if not years. Also, the building needed a lot of facade work in the last 2-3 years, which caused increases in the maintenance. The building is thinking about kicking Think coffee out and converting the space to a parking garage to make more money. Presumably, that will mean construction under the building for several months and an initial outlay of money. For what you get (basicallly only a doorman), the maintenance is staggering.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 15 years ago
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Thanks. Do you know why such a large mortgage as this is a very old building? I would have thought that the mortgage is paid down by now. I guess no reason to buy in this building as the maintenance costs are fast approaching 65-75% of rental prices for similar place.

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Response by NWT
over 15 years ago
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The building's old, but it was only converted from rental into a cond-op in 1986. They started out saddled with a big mortgage, and have added to that from time to time to pay for things, as wvresident said.

It's now up to $23,000,000 or so, at 7-something-percent, due 2017.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 15 years ago
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Thanks NWT. Do you know if the mortgage is interest only or part amortizing?

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Response by NWT
over 15 years ago
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The $18,900,000 2002-2017 at 7.1% is interest-only. The agreement for the other $5,000,000 due 2017 either doesn't say or I missed it.

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Response by Logic
over 14 years ago
Posts: 36
Member since: May 2009

Anyone who lives here have any updated info, regarding this building and the issues raised in the posts (mortgage burden, maintenance increases, potential garage)? I was considering taking a look, but I wante dto narrow my search to financial sound building with little uncertainty. Thanks.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 14 years ago
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Look for low to reasonable maintenance as a proxy for financially sound. When the maintenance is high, many maintenance projects get postponed which eventually come back to cost more. This building should be trading at least 25% below the comps.

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Response by docnerd
over 14 years ago
Posts: 7
Member since: Jan 2006

There is a ton of turnover here too. It looks like there were almost 20 sales on record last year, which is so many that I have to believe there is some sort of error in the data reporting. Even so, I get email alerts for new listings and 250 Mercer comes up far more than any other building I follow.

I'd steer clear.

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Response by Isle_of_Lucy
over 14 years ago
Posts: 342
Member since: Apr 2011

^ I'd much rather see 20 sales on record, than 20 apartments listed with no sales. It's possible that it's nothing more than a cyclic turnover of a particular demographic.

And no, I don't live there, nor do I know anybody who lives there. :)

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Response by MUSICMAN
over 13 years ago
Posts: 0
Member since: Nov 2009

"k.g. here.. resident broker on premesis for over 20 years...

don't have the time right now, but i will straighten out all the various misconceptions,

& mis-information being tossed around about 250 mercer street in coming days/weeks

suffice it to say that we are in far better shape than the current "discussions" are assuming

stay tuned!! i can be reached at 212-253-5353 if anyone has specific questions.

respectfully,

ken garretson a/k/a "k.g."

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Response by alanhart
over 13 years ago
Posts: 12397
Member since: Feb 2007

"current discussions"? Surely not this one, which hasn't had a comment in 14 months.

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Response by huntersburg
over 13 years ago
Posts: 11329
Member since: Nov 2010

Do you prefer K.G. or Musicman?

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Response by alanhart
over 13 years ago
Posts: 12397
Member since: Feb 2007

Great! Finally some comments! That should freshen up this old thread.

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Response by Brooks2
over 13 years ago
Posts: 2970
Member since: Aug 2011

Gk's been the resident broker for 20 yrs, where was he 14 months ago? Way to be on top of things GK

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Response by tm2mc
over 13 years ago
Posts: 53
Member since: Dec 2009

Not an expert whatsoever, but I've noticed that any building that was originally built as commercial and later converted to residential always has high maintenance.

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Response by JButton
over 13 years ago
Posts: 447
Member since: Sep 2011

GK's got all the answers. hope he doesn't get busy again and keep us waiting for 14 months. but looking at the buiilding prints this looks more like a rental. does sponsor still own a lot of units?

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Response by FreebirdNYC
over 13 years ago
Posts: 337
Member since: Jun 2007

Thanks for the spam "KG". the suspense is killing us

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Response by a2deuce
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 115
Member since: Apr 2007

Any updates here? A few interesting spaces but maintenance is soooo high.....I guess the reason the purchase prices are low for the area.

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Response by grunty
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 311
Member since: Mar 2007

Anyone have any new updates on this building? Thanks.

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Response by soho42
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 9
Member since: Feb 2012

Very high maintenance in the building. Area is overrun with NYU students. Going to be tons of construction in the area with NYU expanding on both the west and north sides of the building.

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Response by grunty
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 311
Member since: Mar 2007

Thanks soho42.

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Response by grunty
almost 11 years ago
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Thanks soho42.

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