Jimmy Carter?

Are you nuts?

So, how would you stop the spill? Come on, oh bright contributor.

Obama is a fool. Damn, wish I didn't donate to him and vote for him. The Republicans are looking mighty good to me right now - even with their intent on injecting religion into government. But, this is NYC... all the Left-Wingers are going to cum out in force to defend him....

The leader of the regime is the most unaccomplished person to ever hold high office. The Nobel prize he won is symbolic of his life. He never earned anything. Just given to him for nothing like all his "achievements". Now he has to stand on his own. .No teacher to give him an A when he deserves a C. Nobody to write his law review articles. He is completely naked and a failures for all to see.

finallyjoy, you are so wrong and your memory is oh so short. Hello, George W for #1 unaccomplished .....
Haters, haters.
Yeah, the oil spill (misnomer now) is a horrible disaster. But the hate doesn't have to be directed at Obama. Try spewing your hate at BP folk ...

I know how you feel. Deregulation led to a massive financial crisis around the world, as markets became leveraged betting parlors. Meanwhile, big oil companies managed to avoid paying any fee, got tax breaks, wrote their own rules and their short-sighted greed will cost billions to the country. Two unfunded wars, big tax cuts for the richest 1% and new Medicare entitlements have brought the deficits to new, unprecedented highs, hobbling any attempt to spend our way out of the latest cyclical recession.
Obama has a lot of explaining to do.

Dogismy, I do hope that my buyer's remorse will be reversed... but so far, what did he achieve? Like, really? What's gotten better, except speeches?

maly, you'e right. That's why we needed someone with ability to enact the vision. So far, the vision — well, probably still there. But the enact part just doesn't exist.
Medicare entitlements? You mean, the old people just have to be discarded? They did pay taxes, you know.

And Dog, where did you see the hate in these posts?

The dems are going to have a blood bath in November and then maybe the Bush-Clinton-Bush-The leader of the regime era of bigger and bigger oppresive government will end. Friends, the county is bankrupt, we are screwed. Massive social welfare states don't work. We are Greece. Wake up.

I don't want to deprive grandma from her arthritis pills, I just want to make sure it's not a massive handout from the Treasury to pharmaceutical manufacturers. Especially when all the extra money goes to bloated marketing budgets that encourage even more pill popping, with dubious results.
Besides, Social Security and Medicare payments are not tied to tax payments but need and status. You could have paid no tax and benefit, and so it should be, since the aim is to prevent abject destitution of the old and the disabled. The problem is that we have so many outstanding promises, to the young, the old, the poor, the disabled, the veterans, the militaro-industrial complex, the large farming concerns, not to mention our debt-holders and our crumbling infrastructure. How do we pay for it all?

Nice to see the tinfoil hat crew on SE. What's up, Obama fu%$ing your wives or something?

^--- Nice to see a Left-Wing Nut Job on SE.

Its pretty amazing how Republicans who caused all these disasters - economic, environmental, poor execution of wars, housing, etc etc - and these are disasters of epic proportions who most agree should take decades to resolve are blaming Obama for not fixing their nightmares immediately.

You guys created these disasters over 8 years - give the guy a chance to fix them.

This original post is a perfect example of spam -- an endless rant, totally unrelated to the purpose of this board, from a new "anonymous" poster. The whole thread needs to be removed.

The dude has had crisis after crisis after crisis to deal with. He might be a huge failure down the road, who knows, but overreacting with all this "He's the worst ever! He's a Communist! He's Jimmy Carter!" is just embarrassing in it's simple-mindedness. Incredibly sad that people can't put politics aside and think about the big picture. Obviously 1OneWon hates America.

Its pretty amazing, its been years and years of Democrats in power, and they STILL won't take responsibility for anything they've done.

Oil spill was the republicans, right!

i love it!

> You guys created these disasters over 8 years

perfitz, why do you even try and argue politics when you don't know anything about them.

Democrats have held both houses of congress since... when?

dems had no control of congress for most of the infamous shrub era

shrub deficit aviodance: cut taxes--ramp spending--foment credit bubble--great stuff

dick cheney: "we will run the deficits" tells it

oil spill largely a result of lax enforcement and regulation of drilling courtesy of dick cheney and his ecretly formulated energy policy--a policy crafted with zero input from environmental, consumer and worker safety groups---minerals management service empowered by shrub/cheney

if obama is to be faulted, it is for not cleaning house of theses corrupt shrub/cheney cronies

again... Democrats have held both houses of congress since... when?

The leader of the regime is an abject failure. You leftist can blame Bush and Cheney, that is you're only joker card. Pelosi and reid have been in power since 2006 and the debt has increased by 3.5 trillion dollars and the annual deficit will be 1 trillion. (Todays WSJ) The entitlement mentality has destroyed this country. We are Greece. The leader of the regime couldn't run a hot dog stand successfully. His Nobel prize is beautifully symbolic of his life. No real achievements.... just words.

"Holding" Congress is not the same as controlling Congress. Nowhere near.

avenueb - The FBI and Homeland Security has been contacted regarding your hatred for America. All your posts have been searched, saved, and forwarded. Left-Wing hater.

bush had the house for six of the years and the senate for four. please.

and i'll give him credit for one thing, he had one of the best political propaganda machines in modern history.

at this point i'm not sure there are any workable solutions. empires always die, and this one may have been, if not killed, wounded severly for years. i'm hoping i'm wrong, but has anyone heard of any good ideas on how to employ millions when our corporations would rather hire overseas? when they are chasing profits by relying on productivity gains rather than long-term increased demand? when they are looking to emerging markets to replace, and hopefully sooner rather than later, the american consumer?

1OneWon, if you hate the United States so much, why don't you just move to another country?

which party is in favor or strong federal government regulatory bodies and alternative energy?

which party is in favor of weakening regulatory bodies and placing industry insiders in regulatory roles while promoting Drill Baby Drill and Drill Here Drill Now?

Also, I don't get the sense that avenueb hates the Left-Wing so much.

The answer- stop raising the costs of business with huge tax burdens from massive government entitlement spending.

Or better still, LICcomm, just raise taxation to the appropriate level, so that government is less crippled by financial malnutrition.

Oh yeah, by the way: Drill then Nuke, Baby, Drill then Nuke!

ah, it's too late, the gov't already has rickets and scurvy.

LIC - yeah thats what we need - corporations and banks with less oversight, and less taxation. It has worked out well for us....its going to be great the American taxpayers picking up the bills for this oil spill......

alanhart, avenueb - The FBI and Homeland Security has been contacted regarding your hatred for America. All your posts have been searched, saved, and forwarded. Left-Wing-hater.

The 900 billion dollar stimulus was the final straw. The idiotic policies of the regime has been recognized by the tax paying citizens. Only socialists and criminals spend more money when broke. The Nobel prize winner and scholarly economist Paul Krugman advocates even much bigger stimulus packages. He is the perfect fool for the bankrupt welfare state.

So alan would just kill more business with excessive tax burdens, since he thinks that is appropriate.

Thacher- the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

the problem with Republican deregulation you wind up with the American people bankrupted and homes taken by Wall Street bankers, and 5 states that may not be inhabitable and covered with oil for decades

this is the american worker's competition.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=abLaG8wEdSqo&pos=14

Foxconn Workers in China Say 'Meaningless' Life Sparks Suicide

Inside the compound, at a factory devoted to computer motherboards, rows of young men and women stand at assembly lines, their feet shod in blue slippers and white caps on their heads. The smell of solvent hangs in the air. About 80 percent of the front-line production employees work standing up, some for 12 hours a day for six days a week, according to Liu Bin, a 24-year-old employee.

of course the american taxpeayer will pay for the swpill

do you really think the astounding oil company profits provide by shrub/cheney, as they neutered regulation, will play into this?

what a joke..socialism for rich and powerful corps and individuals..on the backs of the "middle class" (what remains of it)

What politician received the most campaign money from BP? The leader of the regime. $80,000.

finallyjoy, how deceptive. that money came from BP employees as individuals, not from the company.

but i don't expect much from you.

The oil spill is now Bush's fault? More twisted liberal logic.

Bush and Cheney made the BP employees give the money. You are a fool aboutready.

finallyjoy, you're stupid and incomprehensible. and those are your better qualities.

The dems are going to have an oil bath in November. And the leader of the regime will blame Bush and Cheney.

so, who here thinks bush and cheney did a good job? and if so, in what way?

Bush was a big government guy and so was Bush 41. I hated them both. But, the leader of the regime is a marxist and he is destroying this county on purpose. The bushes were lousy establishment compassionate republicans.

I think Bush was a poor President. I also think liberals blame him way more than warranted and do so to try to cover up their own failures.

Which Vice President was a major shareholder of Halliburton and received more salary per year while VP than he received as VP from said company?

And you know Halliburton's role in the gulf spill?

LICcomm, a viable business can manage its tax bill. Who cares about those businesses that have so little life in them that they can't pay their fair share towards running the United States, New York, and New York? Look, for example at Chrysler "reborn" through a bailout way back when, and closer to death now than before that. I'd rather buy a car from Laos than a lousy Chrysler.

Also, LICcomm, it happens that Bush were very very wealthy Presidents. So you're wrong as always, but this time 2x2.

Well I for one think Cheny did an absolutely fantastic job - DESTROYING THE PLANET...

And Cheney's done it for his profit. Possibly the most evil man on earth.

alan, why don't you try talking to anyone who has run a substantial business before making such clueless comments? Nice fantasyland that you live in. Without any sense of scale, you just assume that a "viable" business can afford any amount of taxes. This twisted liberal logic is what drives economies into the ground.

For the modern day "progressive", Bush and Cheney are like Woodstock. The libs will never get over it. Bush even caused Gore's divorce; Gore was shattered by the 2000 election and it poisoned their marriage. No kidding.. T

"And Cheney's done it for his profit. Possibly the most evil man on earth." I thought Dr. Evil was the most evil man on Earth.

Lic:

Businesses are valued as a multiple of Ebitda. Tell us how taxes figure into that equation.

llc... Don't let all the little people bother you. They all like being slaves to big mommy and daddy government. The leader of the regime need dependents to keep power and control.

So...once again. How do taxes affect Ebitda?

Marc Rich told me he doesn't like taxes, and Francis Drexel and Tubby Burnham concurred. John and Francis Baring simply hated them. Even Hank, Manny and Meyer Lehman could have lived without taxes.

But they're not what brought their houses down.

cc If they taxed at 100% how many people would be employed.. Use your brain.

The spill = sometimes some very bad shit happens
Can't stop the spill = some very bad shit gets even worse
The environment = completely screwed beyond repair (in our life time)
The President = this is what you voted him into office for. Handle the crisis...
How's he doing = daddy did you plug the hole yet?
The Bush Administration = 9/11, Americans still dieing in two wars, Middle East/Economy is a mess
The Republicans = Drill Baby Drill (or did you forget)
The Tea Party = insane crackpots
America = Business as usual

Who ever suggested 100 percent? No one.

Once again, please explain how taxes affect the calculation of Ebitda which is the standard valuation used for all businesses. Or, continue in your grand tradition of ignoring any incovenient facts that don't support your rants.

no, not all business are valued by EBITDA - it totally depends on the situation. Last I heard most stock prices, for one, are on a P/E basis - with the E being after tax. Many business are valued on a revenue basis. Others on a cash flow basis. Some on book value. And for small business, the overwhelmingly majority of which are run with cashflow or growth (reinvesting that cashflow), not sale as the objective, reducing taxes is obviously material. If only EBITDA mattered, and not taxes, then no company would spend money trying to minimize their tax bill, b/c the benefit (always zero) would never outweigh the costs.

Yes...the corner dry cleaner is not interested in ebitda but it is a key measurement in businesses of any substance. And not just for the purposes of resale but financing as well. So, perhaps lic can explain how taxes affect ebitda.

Obama will be a one term president just like Carter was!

Perhaps columbiacounty can explain how the government can have a 13 trillion dollar debt and run an annual deficit of 1 trillion and not go bankrupt.

which exalted republican will take office? palin?

funny how one person's marxist is another person's supply-sider.

cc Waiting for your explanation.

That's not the issue.

cc Still waiting . Now it is the issue.

cc So once again...Perhaps columbiacounty can explain how the government can have a 13 trillion dollar debt and run an annual deficit of 1 trillion and not go bankrupt. We are all waiting.

perhaps finallyjoy can explain how clinton's surplus disappeared?

Please cc we are all anxiously waiting for your explanation.

cheney: "we'll run the deficits" -- they are running, aren't they?

I will after cc explains.. Still waiting

julialg, the answer to aboutready's question is "massively irresponsible tax cuts for the very rich" and the answer to your question is "responsible tax restoration for the very rich."

Eeezzy Peazzy.

I am happy to respond as soon as Lic answers my question.

hello newtown creek??

EDITDA any connection with taxes??

anything to do with viability of a large business entity??

Remember when Carter in 1977 said that the US should never again be dependent on foreign oil and how we need to become independent of the terrorist energy producing nations and he went on to create national commissions on energy independence, promoted solar, put solar panels on the white House, as well as, increased mileage standards for American Cars??

Then remember when Reagan took the White House ripped the solar panels off the roof, decreased mileage and safety standards for cars and in turn put our country into a trajectory that was even more dependent of foreign oil from terrorist countries? Oh yeah then he went and sold weapons to Iran and trained bin Laden to fight in Afghanistan... Republicans are great for this country..

CC berates everyone with his little petty comment. But, he never adds anything. So, once again cc explain.

julialg, I just explained under my other usernames, petrfitz and aboutready and alanhart. What don't you have the capacity to understand?

AR,
Allow me to explain...
Here in Texas we like everything big.
Big Hair, Big Cars, Big Steaks.
When someone says do want a itty-bitty bill, we say, "HELL NO!!! REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!"
We say that 'cause we get F'ed up here a lot so we always park the pickup near the Alamo.
What was the question again?
Love
George W

Uh oh. It really is julialg. Time for another name change honey.

CC Still waiting. Use your brain and enlighten us.

woops...i swear i know it's EBITDA

Watergate (R)
Iran Contra (R)
Savings & Load Crisis (R)
Training of bin Laden (R)
Massive Deficits - Reagan (R)
Blowjob (D)
9/11 (R)
Pre-Empetive War for WMD's (R)
Outing a CIA Agent (R)
Subprime meltdown (R)
Great Recession (R)
Placing Industry Insiders into Oil Regulatory positions (R)

cc- the issue is not how taxes affect EBITDA. The issue is how taxes affect the viability of business. Higher taxes = higher costs of doing business = less viability, less growth, fewer jobs.

ar- Clinton's surplus was due to an economy that was expanding before he took office and his cutting too much from the military. It disappeared because of the recession that began while he was still in office, the increase in military spending resulting in our being attacked on 9/11, and too much growth in other government spending.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html

or what falco said.

alanhart ...We all know you can express yourself and we respect your misinformed opinions. But now it's time for cc to add something to the conversation.

correction- the increase in military spending resulting FROM our being attacked on 9/11 . . .

cheney: "We'll run the deficits".

Mission Accomplished II

At least julialg doesn't hide behind somewhereelse's skirt the way LICcomm does.

go fitzie--if only you thought as clearly about real estate!!

finallyjoy, you don't add anything. you just spout nonsense about the "regime"

of course it's the large one. are you enjoying your group health insurance?

So once again cc we are waiting.

Oh, there you are!

"resulting FROM our being attacked on 9/11 . . .

My Pet Goat

It's a time of war - you are either with Obama or with the terrorists. If you question the President then you are supporting the terrorists........

Economic stagnation (D)
Opposing nuclear power (D)
Weakened U.S. military (D)
Massive deficits (D)
Massive debt (D)
Socialist health care (D)
Appoint judges who disregard the Constitution (D)

newtown creek's 15 foot bed of "black mayonnaise" (R)

Alienate our foreign allies (D)
Allow Iran to run circles around you diplomatically (D)
Allow Russia to run circles around you diplomatically (Both)
Oppose trade agreements with strategic allies (D)

cc So once again we are waiting. Don't let your comrades down.