Anyone done a kitchen reno recently?
Started by lostintransit
almost 17 years ago
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I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has recently done a total reno of a kitchen and has a real cost they can provide. Wild speculation is not my thing, but I'd like to know if $45-$50k for a total demolition/reno with mid-range appliances (Kitchenaid, probably) sounds reasonable.
Size/shape of kitchen. Configuration of counters you anticipate. What backsplash? Flooring? Do you need to move plumbing/gas line/do electrical work? Countertops: what material? How many feet? What is longest run? Cabinetry: pre-made or custom millwork?
In some cases the price you give is quite possible. In others it is over and in some it is under. Need more info than which stove you will select.
Got it. Will calculate and get back here.
You'll get some good ballpark answers here if you can provide more info. In the end, though, you obviously need to confer with a pro on-sight. I had very positive experience with Wood Designe on W22 St. Ask for Diego. His company makes their own cabinets 100% custom for prices that put MCKB to shame.
Thank you for the contact. I'm a total ovice at this, but really need to get a new kitchen.
Would suggest Home depot (use a queens location for better pricing) and Ikea kitchens (new Brooklyn location). Much cheaper than any independent Manhattan provider
went with a henrybuilt kitchen and it was totally painless, looks gorgeous and the customer service is second to none - they even sent reps out during the installation process to make sure our guys were putting everything in correctly! they can also provide installation but we were already working with a contractor for a few other things.
the quality of the cabinets aren't even in the same league as ikea or homedepot - soo- much better, but the pricing was only a little bit more of a premium.
In the past year I did a gut reno of our kitchen (in NYC but not Manhattan) and a new kitchen in new construction in Massachusetts. I would never recommend Home Depot or Ikea unless I was renovating a low-end property to sell immediately -- and even then my conscience might smite me for doing it. I apologize in advance to all you HD and Ikea fans out there, but I call them as I see them.
Our NYC contractor was wonderful but just moved to North Caroline, so I cannot recommend him. What I recommend is taking the time to research everything so you know what you're getting. It was tedious at times, but worth it in the end. If you do your homework in advance, there will be fewer surprises later on and you will be more in control of the project. I would also say you should be flexible and don't fall so in love with any one product that you couldn't consider switching for something better or cheaper.
We used moderation in all things. Both kitchens have oak cabinets with bells but no whistles, ceramic tile floors and backsplashes, granite countertops and black appliances ( we don't care for stainless steel in the kitchen). Appliances include 25 cu ft side by side ref/freezers, smoothtop range in one kitchen and induction cooktop + oven in the other, dishwashers, stainless steel sinks and fixtures. We planned the reno so that we moved nothing major like plumbing or gas lines.
The renovated kitchen has 16 linear feet of countertop and is 8x14. The new construction kitchen has 24 linear feet of countertop and is 8x18. The appliances cost about $4000 for each kitchen with a discount promotion from Sears. The countertops installed cost in the vicinity of $100/sf. The ceramic tile floors cost about $10/sf installed. We splurged a bit on the backsplash tiles in both kitchens, so they came out to about $15/sf installed in one kitchen and $18/sf installed in the other.
This is the kind of information I was looking for a year ago, so I have gone into boring detail. We love both kitchens and don't regret not going higher-end.
Finally, and I think most important, is that you get a written contract and have it looked over by an attorney before signing it. This is a major investment and the extra care is worthwhile. A friend of ours omitted doing that last year. They ended up waiting 8 months for the renovation to be finished and it was done so poorly they had to hire a different contractor to fix everything. They ended up paying $30,000 more than the agreed-upon price. She had little recourse because she signed the contractor's contract without reading it carefully. Everything in the contract was in the contractor's favor, of course.
I completely agree with generalogooun. Home depot is for low-end ready to rent/sell spaces. IKEA is for the weekend warriors. Who want's to deal with two-three days of assembling 300 pieces. The only thing nice about the IKEA system is the wall cabinet ledge they provide.
Kitchens and bathrooms are the most expensive rooms to renovate in a home. So it pays to set a somewhat strict budget with your materials selection. Try to buy things that are returnable in the event you over ordered. Also, unless you're an talented designer, it is best to stay away from anything exotic. It may look pretty now, but tomorrow it will most likely not work and be a joke. Current standard designs have evolved and succeeded over the years do to their ease of use.
Most importantly, when hiring a contractor, the price shouldn't be your only criteria. Good contractors hire good staff and sub-contractors who in turn command hire salaries.
oh and stay away from copper fixtures... what the manufacturer doesn't tell you is how quickly they oxidize with humidity and contact with water.
Your budget sounds reasonable for a typical galley kitchen gut renovation in Manhattan. It's obviously hard to give better numbers without knowing anything about the size or particulars of the project. I am a kitchen designer with my own firm & specialize in Manhattan kitchen renovations. I don't know the SE etiquette on self-promotion, so please don't beat me up too much if I've broached any rules/conventions. However, please let me know if you want to talk a bit more about your project & I can send you my contact information.