any opinion on Carnegie hill

It's nice, pretty quiet. Very much of a "neighborhood" feel to it. Feels very far from downtown -- but if you live/work/go to school above 42nd street it's convenient enough.

our daughter goes to school up there. it has it's good aspects and less good, like any neighborhood. it's extremely family friendly, peaceful, and you'll likely get to know people fairly quickly. not an "anonymous" feel to it. but it bites for dining options, and for everyone who likes the quiet there is someone who prefers the more active. if you're close (or don't mind the walk) to the 86th street subway station it is very convenient. two stops to Union Square.

Love the area (no surprise here) especially with children. Very close to many schools, has a neighborhood feel (we constantly run into people we know), and relatively quiet. Work downtown so commute sometimes longer than expected ("sick passenger" etc).

Excellent area! Buy now or be priced-out forever.
Very quite/family friendly. no big box stores.
Despite earlier post, I think there are a good # of good restaurants.

qwerty, i guess it's relative. i eat out downtown. it has been getting better up here, we had a good ues restaurant thread recently.

santaoct... did it just abort? maybe not the best word to use.... did it just abort?

my seller aparently has had it's runs with the coop board in his building. Particularly due to large renovations. I am just trying to get all clear and remove any potential liability after I close. So I have a tough contract. He is blinking right now.

no doubt you have already thought of this but if not...make sure any bad situation down the road will not require you to chase anyone for cash. either get the board to sign off for the building or have money in escrow. hope it works out for you.

Its good up there no doubt, but it feels a bit boring. My wife likes it a bunch, she is going to have to drag me by my feet to get me to leave the UWS though. Great for kids if they go schools in the neighborhood. Good restaurants are limited above 90th, so depends where in CH. It is just a tough trade if you live in a different hood currently. Makes you feel like a stain! like you are giving something up in your life, or leaving something behind, or settling. Like you can't hang with the fellas anymore or something.

would agree completely with all of the above but add that as a family place, it can't be beat. (yes, i did grow up there.) very serene, very scenic, a pleasure to walk around. have not lived there for many (many) years but have friends who love it and i still enjoy walking around there from time to time.

Not my bag, but if my kids went to school there, I'd be hard pressed not to move. My life is the triange.

You know what the fellow said — on the West Side, for a hundred years under the Socialists, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Broadway, Lincoln Center and Seinfeld. On Carnegie Hill, they had brotherly love, they had a hundred years of aristocracy and peace — and what did that produce? Sarabeth's Kitchen and the 92nd Street Y.

hold on...do you mean that original sarabeth was on madison not amsterdam?

beautifully put. how do you measure soul?

west81st, did you read the book on the Five Points area? i'll need to dig deep to come up with the title and author (or have the husband come back, he went to graduate school with the author), i read it and it was the most amazingly intricately rendered view of earl(ier) downtown manhattan (which was largely the only manhatttan)i have come across. and it was a great read, in and of itself. highly recommend.

columbiacounty: No, Amsterdam is the original, but I couldn't think of anything else over there.

Sarabeth's is also the closest thing I could come up with, in restaurant terms, to a cuckoo clock.

AR: Thanks for the tip. As long as Martin Scorsese hasn't turned it into a vehicle for Daniel Day-Hambone, I'll definitely pick it up.

Guys I love the feedback, that's one of the things that I appreciate the most about SE. Well the apartment is in 94th west of 3rd ave. I have to say I love the cleanliness of CH and the historic buildings. I started looking at the west village so CH is a very different and I do understand the quietness issue. The restaurant situation is an issue for me I love to eat out.

hey...two blocks to the subway and you're anywhere you want to be. walk west of lexington and it just gets nicer and nicer. we lived on 92nd just east of lexington when first married and used the supermarket on 92nd & lex as our personal kitchen. think its still there and suspect its still empty. there are some bar food type places on 3rd where you can eat out...not haute cuisine, but reasonable.

the shame is that saachi's just closed---for my money, one of the best sushi restaurants in manhattan at 95th & madison. maybe something interesting will appear in that space.

columbiacounty: No disrespect intended toward your ancestral turf. It's just crosstown rivalry. I actually love the area around Park and 90th, but you can see where Harry Lime might see a resemblance to Switzerland.

not to worry...have lived in uws for longer than formative years on the east side. my wife was shocked and appalled at the original thought of crossing the park...now, if i want to go back for a visit, i am forced to do it alone.

What I find interesting about Carnegie Hill is that being such nice neighborhood it is also so close to the Spanish Harlem. No disrespect to anybody who lives in Harlem but the neighborhood changes quite dramatically north from 96th and Lexington. So I find fascinating that such family place is within walking distance to some of the largest projects in manhattan.

"You know what the fellow said — on the West Side, for a hundred years under the Socialists, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Broadway, Lincoln Center and Seinfeld. On Carnegie Hill, they had brotherly love, they had a hundred years of aristocracy and peace — and what did that produce? Sarabeth's Kitchen and the 92nd Street Y."

Comparing the entire upper west to just carnegie hill? Wow, thats quite a positive statement for the UES...

"So I find fascinating that such family place is within walking distance to some of the largest projects in manhattan."

Unlike all the other family places? UWS has many more projects within (you don't have to walk). And guess what's just north of the West Village.

This is Manhattan, what isn't within walking distance of a project?

BTW, overall (to answer the OP), I dig CH a lot. A little quiet for some, but UES is fairly undervalued these days. You're talking some very pretty housing stock steps from the park, off an express subway (9 minutes to Yankee Stadium!). You've got great schools public and private, and a wealth of culture at your feet.

Keep in mind that this was for many years right up among the most expensive neighborhoods in the city... and there has always been ample reason for that.

That its in a down cycle in popularity to me just makes it a relative value.

10022 - I was just goofing around. Here's the original:

"In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

Possibly Graham Greene's most famous line... except that he didn't write it.

I don't even know who Graham Greene is...

santaoct, I think I know which apt you bought. Wasn't it on the market for the longest time? What is the situation there? Did they already bought another apt and had to sell? You sure got a good deal there. Congrats!

He he Carnegie, yeah I liked I did not wanted somebody to snatch it from me. and I was done looking for a place. things are looking slightly better now I might be closing after all. One thing I am not happy about is the bomb on the Starbucks at 92nd and 3rd. I mean people should respect coffee shops I know I do is it too much to ask.

lol.

for a second, I thought you were talking about the subway construction. (i was an avenue off before I thought about it).

W81: Third Man!! My favorite flick/ By the way, Bistro du Nord ain't bad.

Yo, yo, yo, if you aint seen "The Third Man", it'll be on TCM on June 5th, 6PM. Directed by Carol Reed, screenplay by Graham Greene. A must see.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041959/

sorry for diversion.

Re: Carnegie, I grew up there. Loved it.