building at 219 Saint John's Place

Man, those iPod docking stations are getting expensive in Brooklyn!

Also: that 2Br in the middle claims to have 2BRs plus a dining room on their web site, but there's no DR in the floor plan. Shall we place bets on this one as well?

I looked at the Vermeil, and yes, those units are nice. Big...but, I agree, overpriced. Which is why we didn't take it any further. The Iroquois is priced similarly to this place, and is NOT MOVING. At all. For a long time. So these dipshits decide to bring their units onto the market at these already-proven unsuccessful prices? As someone who is seriously looking at family-sized places in PS, it really pisses me off.

I think the properties that are moving are the ones where the carrying cost is more or less in line with the cost of renting.

For instance I saw a Boerum Hill sale on Streeteasy insider the other day, it was a large one-bed in a new development about two blocks from the projects, near Smith street.

I guess for many people that is far enough from the projects to be comfortable. The buyers were a married couple and the carrying cost was something like $2400 per month.

I realize that they could get more than a one-bedroom for that kind of rent in Boerum Hill, but I'm trying to understand the sale, which in my opinion was overpriced.

Maybe a young professional couple that was already paying that much for a two-bed who wanted to own would be willing to downsize so long as it wouldn't change their monthly housing payment, and they got some nice finishes in the trade.

I wouldn't make that choice but it's not completely insane.

However for 219 St. Johns, the subject of this thread, the story *would* be insane, because the monthly carrying cost on the 3-bed that is about $1000 per sf would be $8400!!! For St. john's Place!!!

I haven't shopped for a 3-bed rental in the Slope recently but I'm guessing you could find a nice place for roughly half that.

So in the Boerum Hill sale, there was a rough kind of parity, but in the case of your 3-bed, there's just no reason to buy at these prices.

I heard they just approved the addition to a school a couple of houses down from 219 St. John's for outside playtime for small kids. This block will be LOUD all day long. who would want to live there ?? Get some ear plugs people!!!

The closest school is Montessori Day School of Brooklyn. It's actually at the other end of the block, a little more than "a couple houses down" (20 actually). They do not have an outdoor space, cannot add one (Grace United Methodist Church occupies 100% of its lot), and have no plans to add one. They are in fact moving, if you need to verify just give them a call.

inquiringminds- What school are you referring to?

You are wrong. Um, I'm sure you've heard of the Berkeley Carroll School, right? Did you miss this article? It's going to be screaming kids all day every day right next to 219 St. Johns Pl. Nightmare!

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/33/2/33_02_sb_berkeley_carroll.html

If you can't handle the sound of children playing Park Slope is not the neighborhood for you.

i love kids and it is the right neighborhood for me as i live there and have 3 kids... that doesn't mean i would want a rooftop of them playing right by my living room.

i love dogs too... but i don't want other people's dogs barking in my ear all day long.

I had you pegged for one of the NIMBYs. Whose living room do you suggest they play by, then?

YOURS!

why are you so surprised? people like peace and quiet, unless they're going to an amusement park

Ah, thanks for being specific on the school. You are definitly correct, why didn't you just say what school it was, instead of incorrectly stating it's a few doors down (thats being a little dramatic, no?). It's actually one block south. No worries for 219 I would say, for although it is a rooftop playground, it will be behind the row of houses across the street from this property. I'm sure it's going to be very loud for the homes that sit with their backs to the school and that co-op at 209 Lincoln. If you live in that building, the playground will be right next to your living room, literally.

You can still hear the noise of the children roaring where 219 St. Johns is. Plus all of that school bus and children crossing traffic . Unfortunately 219 St.Johns has other problems like the fact it's so close to noisy, polluted Flatbush. It's a shame actually :(

Forget about the noise, one should be worried about the CRIME!!! A friend of mine lived on St. Johns Place off of 7th avenue, not far from 219... anyway, she was walking home last September when this mugger was on the loose -- at NOON time! Scary! She was in a rental and has since moved to 1st Street...
http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/32/39/32_39_gk_78_breakout.html

A cell phone swiper on the loose! What's the neighborhood coming to?? It's practically like the 1970s out there!

What's the neighborhood coming to is right! You've all heard of bedbugs right? Appears as if they LOVE St Johns Place!!!

http://brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43789&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Be careful people!

Hey inquiringminds, just read an article in yesterday's Eagle about the controversial school expansion near St. Johns Place... the Park Slope community is clearly unhappy about this one!
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=31&id=33656

What's with St Johns Place? Everyone see the story on Brownstoner about the tree that fell down in front of this building?

http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2010/02/tree_down_in_th.php#comments

Between this and the bed bugs, I would not want to live in this place! Maybe the bed bugs gnawed at the tree.

Bedbugs? Yes, a quarter of a mile away in Prospect Heights, apparently. And now you're blaming the developer for a fallen street tree? Get a life.

It must just be killing you that 2 of the three units have gone into contract in the last month, LOL.

Huh?