Madonna low-balled this place...

She must have been reading some of the posts on here or another blog where the phenonemon is spreading.

bid low, bid low, bid low.....

REPEAT

bid low, bid low, bid low.....

ooopps typo- phenomenon

She likes bidding low according to this article:

http://www.observer.com/2007/madonna-goes-discount-shopping-city

I guess the rest of you dumbasses who like to overpay for Manhattan real estate can't use the usual accusation of the people advocating bidding low must be either poor or somehow bitter. According to the article Madonna made $175 million in 2006.

AHAHAHAHAHA, that's funny #4. Yep, most of the people who have been throwing the bitterness accusations around, will never even come close to making $175 million in their entire lifetime. Many probably dont even have the discretionary income to qualify as true millionaires. They'll be buying 1 or 2 million dollar apartments and struglling with the mortgage payments for the next 20 years.

Madonna read streeteasy and thought the high bidders are losers.

Well, until Madge has a signed contract, her lowballing tactic isn't a success. I'm not saying it won't be, just that we should wait and see how it plays out. The $35 million market is a thing unto itself.

chad is that you?

you guys are so sad. and bitter.

Thank you, everyone, for keeping your minds out of the gutter regarding Madonna and low-balling!

Published: May 14, 2007 - 2:35 pm

The Real Estate Board of N.Y., in its first-ever quarterly report of citywide residential sales, said sale prices for New York City apartments rose 23% to $745,000 during the first three months of the year, compared with $605,000, a year ago.

The median sale price for New York City apartments increased 20% to $450,000 in the latest quarter.

In the five boroughs, the average sale price for one-to-three family homes climbed 7% to $595,000, while median sale prices grew 8% to $540,000. Manhattan saw the biggest increase of 16%, on average.

Manhattan, once again, took the lead with the highest average sale price at $1.1 million. Brooklyn was second at $441.000, while Queens came in third at $257,000.

In Manhattan, the average price per square foot for apartments rose 3% to $1,103.

bid low, bid low, bid low.....

keep being a bitter renter, keep being a bitter renter, keep being a bitter renter.....

REPEAT

bid low, bid low, bid low.....

keep being a bitter renter, keep being a bitter renter, keep being a bitter renter.....

Well, howdy everybody! I'm the bid low guy! You know me (just see above #2!) -

"bid low, bid low, bid low.....

REPEAT

bid low, bid low, bid low....."

OOPS - I'm wrong again - nobody's listening to me! Listen to me! LISTEN TO ME!! LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enough with all the nonsense.
Madona lost the house... and rightfully so.
It went for full asking price as it should have.
This is NOT a market to low bid, you can read all the blogs you want, those who low bid and write about it are not
serious buyers and never will be. They are usually too afraid to part with their money for a downpayment and are always looking to find ways to justify NOT making a purchase. Usually something about their research shows that the market is going to tumble, etc. Just like the guy in another discussion that mentions the crash of the late 80s early 90s..
GET REAL.
That guy is older, the world has changed 9 times and real estate has become the BEST and only real way to make money with your money... PROVEN in Manhattan for years.
Those crash years are over... we just came out of a slow period where everyone was saying how the bubble was about to burst... are you still waiting???
Prices have shot up again... and the bidding wars are in full swing.
Cheers

So where's the 'little black arrow' and the 'bid low' guys now?

The bid low guys realized the posters on this board are amateurs so they probably don't login as much. If you remember the original post about the bid low strategy, its not going to work if you have one savvy bidder, like Madonna, followed up by ten giddy idiots who like to kick themselves in the ass by paying more and more and more. You people just sound like fools, so its a waste of time.

#14 you are incredible, in just a few lines you were able to demonstrate your complete lack of understanding of the concept of a free market.

buh-bye #14!

bid low, bid low,

keep being a bitter renter, keep being a bitter renter...

REPEAT

and remember, the little red rental arrows continuously rise for thee....

#15 I think you are having problem with the definition of a free market. I didnt see anyone arguing for price controls, did they? What does the word "bid" mean? It almost inherently applies to free markets in most cases....... now that that is a little more clear, what does "bid low" mean?

Enjoy kicking yourself in the ass #16, by paying more and more and more.

Madonna, a person with real talent, real money, tried to show you losers the way, but you guys are just to contented to act and develop rationales that are against your own interest.
Enjoy the rate increases on the adjustables you are going to have to take out to afford the oversized closets you are going to be buying.

I don't know about you, #19, but I'm locked for 30 years as of last thursday at a near historical low of 6.375%

What adjustable rates are you talking about, nimrod? Nobody would take one now with 30 years being as low as they are.

I am talking about the 60% of people that don't qualify for a fixed rate on the type of apartment they are looking to buy, dimwit. Many people are still buying with interest only, neg am, short term adjustables. If you got a fixed rate, good for you, go brag to your friends about your new oversized closet and try not to choke on the pollution in the city.

Hey dimwit, do you REALLY think that the "...people that don't qualify for a fixed rate on the type of apartment they are looking to buy...are still buying with interest only, neg am, short term adjustables..." are the kind of folks buying $2,000,000 units in Manhattan? Do you? If you do, you're more retarded than you sound in your previous post. Maybe in Flushing, or the Bronx, or Staten Island, or Pelham - maybe. But do you really think people buying on Fifth or Park Avenue, on CPW, in the Village, or TriBeCa, or SoHo, or Flatiron are doing that? Do you really think in a city still consisting of a majority of coops, that these kind of loans would be approved by coop boards if they felt that it would impact the financial stability of their building? Do you think people who have earned large amounts of money all did so by sheer luck, or by being reasonably adept at how to earn money and handle their finances to ensure their financial future? Are you frickin' RETARDED?!?

Take your uniformed, uneducated, no-nothing p.o.v. and just try to enjoy yourself in your bitter renter crapshack, wherever it is that you live, and try not to comment about things that you know nothing about and that you'll never experience. Leave the big money and complex financial mentations to those who know how to make money and how to make money work for them.

Awwww, poor baby gets anxious when someone tells him things are not as they seem. Hate to break it to you, but that is the insider view. More and more people are not able to qualify for fixed rates and are being turned away. If you have been following things closely, you may have noticed some condos are becoming more and more like co-ops with their requirements, one of the reasons is to discourage funkier forms of financing. When the New York Times catches up with the trend and mentions it in about 18 months, then you go on bloviating about it. If you worked in the industry you would know all those 2,000,000 buyers aren't as rich as they claim to be, many are borderline when it comes to qualifying. Just because someone makes a lot of money, doesnt mean they keep a lot of money. Those who make more, spend more. That's the banker's perspective. I have seen the results of this belief that Manhattan buyers are financial all stars, portfolios are just as likely to plummet as they are to bring you your measly return. Most Manhattan buyers may have higher paying jobs, but their market expertise is often no better than someone living in Nebraska.

Hey man, the only 'anxious dude' is the one responding to my posts. I got nothing to be anxious about. A beautiful place to live that I don't have to consider an asset, plus my mortgage rate fixed at a historically low rate (not that this actually matters, as I'll probably pay off the mortgage before the term ends anyway).

"...More and more people are not able to qualify for fixed rates and are being turned away. If you have been following things closely, you may have noticed some condos are becoming more and more like co-ops with their requirements, one of the reasons is to discourage funkier forms of financing. When the New York Times catches up with the trend and mentions it in about 18 months, then you go on bloviating about it..."

Ummmm, it WAS mentioned in NYT. About two weeks ago. Last to know, dimwit? And the fact that condos are becoming more finicky only bolsters my case that in the future Manhattan buyers will have more hoops to junp through. Between those 'newer' condos and coops boards, you'll have to have a killer credit rating AND a reasonably low risk mortgage vehicle before you can pass a board in Manhattan. which is plus for the Manhattan real estate market as a whole.

"...If you worked in the industry you would know all those 2,000,000 buyers aren't as rich as they claim to be, many are borderline when it comes to qualifying..."

Really? Any proof of that? Or are you ALWAYS subject to logghoriac diarrhea?

"...Most Manhattan buyers may have higher paying jobs, but their market expertise is often no better than someone living in Nebraska..."

REALLY?!? Wow! I guess we're all financial rubes compared to you! I'm amazed that we can even manage to keep our heads above water, when others like you with you razor-sharp-no-margin-for-error financial wizadry exist.

Any thoughts on that out there, other Manhattan buyers? Are we all financial rubes who should prostrate ourselves at the feet of this self anointed financial oracle? Or is he just a bitter renter in a crapshack with a bad attitude because he'll never get to play in the sandbox with the big boys and girls?

I vote for..... the latter.

#22 is a hilariously desperate person. The Little Black Arrows and CUT TO's really get him jacked up. But after all, a depreciating asset is not a nice thing to have in the portfolio. So #22 wildly spews on EVERY thread on th' Easy so that he won't have to sit in silence, imagining his superb investment heading downward amidst a hail of Little Black Arrows. To be frank: I don't blame him.

Ask not who the little red rental arrows rise for, #25, they rise for thee....

O, wow, your financial wizardry is truly on display,

"And the fact that condos are becoming more finicky only bolsters my case that in the future Manhattan buyers will have more hoops to junp through. Between those 'newer' condos and coops boards, you'll have to have a killer credit rating AND a reasonably low risk mortgage vehicle before you can pass a board in Manhattan. which is plus for the Manhattan real estate market as a whole."

Having trouble understanding basic supply and demand? How typical. Tough boards already lower the resale value of many apartments. In the next thread you'll be rooting for prices to keep going up, up and up, complaining about your favorite strawmen, bitter renters (which I am not, I own), while at the same time hoping for new buildings to tighten standards even more. Go scratch your head and figure out what happens when you have a smaller pool of buyers.

Even if you come up with your magic formula for more demand, and a mass of perfectly qualified buyer/borrowers start to appear out of the blue, what a great city we'll have then. You and all your neighbors can then all get together and talk about your perfect FICO scores. You must be the resident Streeteasy scholar on how to create great culture and community.

As for holding your financial heads above water in most financial markets , less than a quarter of the files that crossed my desk at my former employer had returns that could beat CD or treasury rates and many (if not most) were in negative territory. Most buyers despite the fact they thought they were financial legends in their own minds could barely pick the right mutual fund.

I dont get what the controversy is. Dont we ALL want to pay less when we are buying? So of course you "bid low". But when the seller comes back and says he has 4 other bids, 2 at ask and 2 above... what do you do? The first time? You pass and keep looking. On the 10th time, after 4 months of searching... you have to go over asked.

So all you "bid low, bid low" people... what are you saying? Do you really think that there aren't people out there "bidding low"? The problem is that the low bid will not get you the apartment!!! I would gladly bid 50% below asked if it meant I could BUY at that price. But what you geniuses (actually, there might only be one bid low guy on here) dont seem to realize is that ... the low bid is not gonna win!

I dont get what the controversy is. Dont we ALL want to pay less when we are buying? So of course you "bid low". But when the seller comes back and says he has 4 other bids, 2 at ask and 2 above... what do you do? The first time? You pass and keep looking. On the 10th time, after 4 months of searching... you have to go over asked.

So all you "bid low, bid low" people... what are you saying? Do you really think that there aren't people out there "bidding low"? The problem is that the low bid will not get you the apartment!!! I would gladly bid 50% below asked if it meant I could BUY at that price. But what you geniuses (actually, there might only be one bid low guy on here) dont seem to realize is that ... the low bid is not gonna win!

I agree that, usually, bidding significantly below the asking price is a faulty method in attempting to buy Manhattan real estate. However, Madonna didn't actually "low-ball" to the extent most people seem to assume. The reality is that this particular townhouse has been on the market much longer than the 562 days listed on Street Easy. The actual original price when it was first listed over two years ago was $25,000,000. It then became $31,000,000; and then finally went up to its newest price of $35,000,000.

And then it sold for full price at $35,000,000.

"...Having trouble understanding basic supply and demand...?"

I think you are, sport.

"...Tough boards already lower the resale value of many apartments...."

Wrong AGAIN! The only thing that a board can really do to lower the resale value of apartments in a coop is to have a very high downpayment requirent (over 50%). As there are currently too many unqualified buyers in the prime Manhattan real estate market (according to you) and the fact still exists that the most desirable units spawn bidding wars, coop (and condo) boards raising the bar higher, demanding that buyers be better qualified will simply weed out the wheat from the chaff and make all the qualified buyers vie even HARDER for the same units... spawning more bidding wars. It doesn't mean less buyers - just more qualified ones. As I said above, the least qualified buyers with questionable loan vehicles wouldn't get by any self respecting coop (and now some condos') boards, now or later. I'm so sure that prime Manhattan coop boards are all currently approving net negative net worth, low FICO scoring, weird ARM mortgages for purchase of units in their buildings. Dumbass.

"...less than a quarter of the files that crossed my desk at my former employer..."

Hhhh, I can see from your genius posts why you no longer WORK at that 'former place of employment.' Fired, or allowed to quietly disappear into the night with your tail between your legs?

"...had returns that could beat CD or treasury rates and many (if not most) were in negative territory..."

Uh-huh - I'm sure that you were working with the HIGHEST of the HIGH financial accounts at your former employer, and privy to the private info of the sharpest financial minds with the greatest net worth.

Give us all a break, and quit whining like a lil' bitch!

Your the bitch who likes to take it in the ass by rooting prices higher and higher. Madonna is giving you a way out. The no-talent, barely a millionaire, sheep like herd of a crowd can now take their cue from a person with real talent and true wealth and start trying to get reasonable prices. You dont have to keep cheering prices higher and higher to feed your one dimensional egos and identities based on what your neighbors are doing and buying. You can go to a party and dont have to be embarrassed about getting a bargain when you use too brag about the self-imposed markup of 20% over ask to impress yourself and your like minded, giddy, overpaying, shallow friends. You wont have that nagging inner anxiety that obsesses you all day about how you are going to afford the next place, whose square footage keeps getting smaller and smaller, while the price keeps going higher and higher. You want to compete with and imitate that billionaire, but you can't figure out how with your tiny net worth and paycheck. Your ego can rest now, a real celebrity is trying to show you the way since your herd mentality, sheep like self is too clueless to figure it out on your own.

It sold for 35 million because some dumbass, a lot richer than you, decided, "Gee, I'll one up Madonna and make a name for my small self". It was on the market 500+ days but no one was buying until Madonna made a bid and some attention starved jackass thought he could get a little publicity and a pathetic ego boost for himself by paying more. You, sitting on the sidelines with the empty space between your ears, decides, "Yay, I am going to take a cue from someone elses attempt to initiate a public pissing contest and pay more and more and more when I go buy another place (or you are holding on to something now, hoping a pile of suckers keep sending its overinflated value higher and higher, in which case all the other suckers here who validate or hold the same opinion should take heed)."

As for Madonna, she should just pass the place up, and keep lowballing other places. Slowly the sheeple will get the message (and maybe manifest some common sense) and realize someone is doing them a favor.

"...Your the bitch who likes to take it in the ass... no-talent, barely a millionaire, sheep like herd of a crowd...feed your one dimensional egos and identities...your like minded, giddy, overpaying, shallow friends...nagging inner anxiety that obsesses you...your tiny net worth and paycheck...your herd mentality, sheep like self is too clueless...some attention starved jackass thought he could get a little publicity and a pathetic ego boost...You, sitting on the sidelines with the empty space between your ears..."

tsk, tsk, tsk - so much anger, and in just one vacuous post! I guess getting fired from the job cuz' you're not quite the financial genius you thought you were must really smart. Now all you can do is vent that anger and try to impress others on the boards, I guess, but your verbal acuity leaves so very much to be desired. So sad.

Mood stabilizing drugs might be the answer for you. Or smoking a little weed. Or getting laid. But dude - you REALLY need to chill out a little! You are too funny... so self important and puffed up with your superstar market understanding.

I actually feel a little bit bad for you - it's obvious you are sooooo angry, unhappy, and miserable.

#33 You are the same person following people from thread to thread posting the same things over and over about your personal expertise with different psychiatric medications and weed. Makes you sound like the one with an ax to grind. Instead of jumping into conversations that are too much for you, why dont you go sniff some new combination of glues.

#33 Here is the forum should go wander over too:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?Cat=&C=5

I heartily endorse the suggestion of #35.

And #34 - what - no fight left? No coherent arguments left to make? All played out, sport? All you got is personal attack and false innuendo? BRING IT ON, MOFO!

Yup - personal attacks and questionable innuendo - the last refuge of a sad, sorry, angry lil' bitch. Just go find another new menial job, and be happy with the joint you own - I'm guessing here - one bedroom, or studio, maybe? I'm thinking Bronx, or maybe L.I.C.? About 625 square feet +/-? And financial genius that you are, your total net worth is about what - $500,000 +/- (and I'm being pretty generous here), if we include your joint?

You make me sputter and spew...

"no fight left?"

Ahahahaha, you're a real hero, trying for champion status among this loser crowd? I didn't post much because I had better things to do than track which anonymous response belongs to who (My point was made, I don't have to continually pound my chest to prove anything else). I didn't know you took this all so seriously, that it was so central to your life. Too weak from the doorman carrying your luggage that you have to continue and pick fights on a message board, great keyboard warrior of the Streeteasy forums? If you think personal attacks and questionable innuendo are the refuge of the sad and sorry, then you lead you the pack for trying to imitate them. Put the joint down and try to not contradict yourself.

By the way the suggestion you endorsed in #35, was mine, I forgot to include it in #34, you clueless idiot. Since you like it so much why don't you follow the advice.

As for the financial advice that you are begging for, its something I charge for and I dont freely give out to losers like you on message boards who lost half their brain cells to the crap their smoking and sniffing. You wouldn't be able to follow it anyway. I know your trying desperately to find a way out of the oversized closet you live in, so go over to the cannabis forums, learn to grow some weed and if you can actually get the balls to venture out on to the subway and set foot in the Bronx, maybe you'll make some money trying to sell it. Before you do though, learn how to read a subway map first.

Wow #37 -

Still no substance and all spew, Ms. I-live-in-the-Bronx-in-a-crappy-studio-I-own-and-have-no-real-net-worth?

"...I didn't post much because I had better things to do..."

And yet, here you still are! Guess you plenty of time to take a break from that big private financial consultant gig you have now after being let go from your last job, huh?

"...Too weak from the doorman carrying your luggage that you have to continue and pick fights on a message board, great keyboard warrior of the Streeteasy forums?..."

Still so angryangryangry - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Obviously you wrote post #35 (even though, you said, you (supposedly) have better things to do). It was the ONLY thing you've said so far that actually made a modicum of sense.

"...As for the financial advice that you are begging for, its something I charge for and I dont freely give..." - perhaps you meant to say "I don't freely give because I can't give away what nobody wants." Don't make us all laugh - like people actually PAY you for your (*ahem*) "expertise?" ROTFLMAO!!

Enjoy your closet sized studio apartment in the Bronx, while you're chrging your all you big financial clients big amounts for all your A-M-A-Z-I-N-G financial insight. God, no wonder they let you go from your last (menial) job.

No substance? All spew? Aren't we a little hypocritical today. I was responding to #33, who diverted the discussion to his pot smoking, mood stabilizers and how others should take the same. He has posted the same thing in other threads, so who is the one who went down the road of no substance or no spew first? I don't know if you are the same poster as #33, if you aren't your reading comprehension still leaves much to be desired because are you still have trouble following the thread.

Since we are on the topic, when was the last time you even went to the Bronx, or Queens/LIC, or Brooklyn, or Staten Island, or Nassau, or Westchester? Did you ever go more than 10 blocks from your apartment to be able to know what the f*ck you are talking about? Or do you still have an anxiety disorder from riding the subway beyond the East River because some high school girls kicked your ass in the early 90's when you just moved to New York City? Crime has been down since the days of the Giuliani administration, its a little safer now, you don't have to hide in your little skycraper.

Nah, #39 ain't angryangryangry...

"...Or do you still have an anxiety disorder from riding the subway beyond the East River because some high school girls kicked your ass in the early 90's when you just moved to New York City? Crime has been down since the days of the Giuliani administration, its a little safer now, you don't have to hide in your little skycraper..."

Man oh man, you sound like were smacked upside your head harder than a Kentucky housewife.

And when's the last time YOU lived in a fabulous full floor condo with beautiful river views during the day and glittering Empire State Building views at night, complete with fireplace and enough square footage to relax, spread out, and enjoy all life has to offer?

Oh, of course, the answer to that would be ...never. And if I want to enjoy myself out of the city, I don't do that in the Bronx, or L.I.C., or Staten Island, or Nassau, you pinhead. I go to my summer place in Bar Harbor. Ever been? Didn't think so.

Enjoy your menial job, your menial home, your menial life, and your menial lifestyle. Clearly, you enjoy it, deserve it, and aspire to it!

Wow ... this board is pretty pathetic.

"Man oh man, you sound like were smacked upside your head harder than a Kentucky housewife"

Actually a few times I had to intervene on the subway every once in a while to help prevent a guy like you from getting his ass kicked in front of his wife by a bunch of 10th or 11th graders.

I know you try to get past the Bronx as quickly as you can on your way to Maine. You probably pay 4 times as much to take your own special private car service to Laguardia Airport because you afraid of cabbies or riding the 7 train. You know so little of what's beyond the Hudson and East Rivers, with the exception of some exclusive upper class enclaves, that you'd even be afraid to set foot in a place like Forest Hills.

BTW, I left my old job to partner in another, much more interesting, related industry with much fatter margins. No need to deal any more with the whiny, hollow, petty egos that populate the Manhattan skyline who use to scrape, borrow and beg to buy their tiny boxes in the sky. My Manhattan clients, despite thinking they were financial legends in their own minds, were praying for 8-10% returns on their diving portfolios. My Texas clients on the other hand were buying oil wells that are now performing at 1.5x net, making 65% or more on their money (a year, for at least 10-12 years). In order to find the deals though, they actually had to do "menial" things like get in a pick truck and drive a couple of hundred miles and get their hands dirty inspecting the wells. Hard to do when your worried about where the nearest dry cleaner is or afraid of getting dirty in your $1000 suit, that you shopped discounters like Century 21 all week for, until you found it for $350 and paid for it with you maxed out credit card because you can barely afford the mortgage on your poorly constructed, overpriced, box in the sky.

Enjoy your arrogance, if your smart enough one day maybe you'll wake up and realize how much it costs you.

when and why did people on this board get so angry????

The answer to that #43 is lying in some post about a thousand posts ago. One person started slowly questioning whether paying 1500 to 4000 a square foot was a little too high even for Manhattan real estate and the whole "No, we love paying more and more and more and taking it up the butt" crowd went into a panic and started accusing the rational crowd of being bitter renters(even when they owned), borough people (not that there is anything wrong with that.... some people here seem to think there is), etc.

lol. not exactly an objective analysis of the rise and fall of the streeteasy empire, #44.

I don't see it as rise or fall and I am not blaming Streeteasy. Its much broader probably then Streeteasy.

All we are sssaaaayyyyyyiiiinnnnngggg ....... is give ppppeeeaaaccceeeee aaa chaaannncccceeee.

Hi - I'm poster 42! I'm angryangryANGRY!!!

"...Actually a few times I had to intervene on the subway every once in a while to help prevent a guy like you from getting his ass kicked in front of his wife by a bunch of 10th or 11th graders....

Oh, really? And is this the very same subway system that you claim "...I know you try to get past the Bronx as quickly as you can on your way to Maine. You probably pay 4 times as much to take your own special private car service to Laguardia Airport because you afraid of cabbies or riding the 7 train....?"

So which is it, you stupid gash? The subway is a place where you intervene like superwoman to protect innocent souls from maurading gangs of delinquent schoolkids on a regular basis, or is the subway a place that so's safe that people like me should know better and travel on it regularly?

This is PRECISELY the kind of no brainer contradiction and amazing lack of a basic grasp of simplistic logic that allowed you to "leave" (read: we'll let you "leave" so your resume doesn't get screwed up) your "... old job to partner in another..." No wonder. With the kind of razor sharp logic you've just presented, I'm amazed you can add simple integers WITH the aid of a calculator.

"...My Texas clients on the other hand were buying oil wells that are now performing at 1.5x net, making 65% or more on their money (a year, for at least 10-12 years)...."

Really? So why didnb't YOU, Ms. Financial-Genius-and-Good-Samaritan-Subway-Reascuer invest in same, and retire with a big fat fortune? Beacause you're either too stupid too recognize a financial windfall opportunity, too lazy to do the "... "menial" things like get in a pick truck and drive a couple of hundred miles and get their hands dirty inspecting the wells....," or because you're a lying piece of crap just trying to find a way, ANY way, of puffing up your ego on this board.

"...Hard to do when your worried about where the nearest dry cleaner is or afraid of getting dirty in your $1000 suit..."

Try $2,000 suit, you super sharp looking financial debacle.

"...that you shopped discounters like Century 21 all week for until you found it for $350 .."

I've never been to Century 21 - but obviously, you certainly have. You seem to know all the details, the prices, the markdowns, etc. I've been buying my suits for over a decade at the same little store on Savile Row.

"...and paid for it with you maxed out credit card because you can barely afford the mortgage on your poorly constructed, overpriced, box in the sky..."

You're funny. I don't carry credit cards, except for one AmEx which is paid in full at the end of the month. And my mortgage? Peanuts.

"...Enjoy your arrogance, if your smart enough one day maybe you'll wake up and realize how much it costs you...."

The difference here, is that I CAN afford to enjoy my own arrogance, and that's the truth. On the other hand, Ms. Financial-Genius-and-Good-Samaritan-Subway-Reascuer, I'm guessing your arrogance is all you've got, and all you'll ever be able to afford.

oy. vey.

its bitter renters man, talking about Madonna and people from texas, its embarrassing.

Honestly, Texas? WTF? oy. vey. is right!

Iowa, what the fu*ck? I am such a clueless city dweller that I think the only businesses in the world are in media, finance and fashion. Gee, what are all those wall street guys busy putting together IPOs about? Does all my food come from Long Island?

Contradiction? You want to know what comes first? You getting you ass kicked by a bunch of high school girls or taking the private car service to Laguardia? There is no contradiction there, the time sequence of events is very clear and you're just grasping at straws and playing with semantics. Getting your ass kicked by a bunch of teenagers is humiliating....... but acting out on a message board is not the way to conquer your trauma, pipsqueak.

Savile Row? So you really are a gay whining bitch. What's the next stop after London? Some Asian destination that your gay British boyfriends like go to with you? Hong Kong? Malaysia? Singapore? Where you troll for underage hookers (and cheap heroin when your pot runs out) and further ruin the reputation of Americans around the world. Next thing you are going to say is you voted for George Bush twice. Do the hookers there ever tell you what a small d*ck you have and that you'll never make up for it with the size of your bank account?

As for my finances I know you you are desperately doing your best to pump more information up about my investments and partnerships (Its the reason you troll message boards, to get ideas on how to save your plumetting portfolio) , but like I said before, I dont give away hard earned information on niche markets for free, especially on public message boards. If you are interested in Texas oil fields why don't you go down there and tell them what you think about their menial homes and lifestyle and see how you like the drill bit rammed up your ass.

Its probably safer for you to just stay within a ten block radius of your Manhattan apartment and watch Madd Money at 6 PM on CNBC. That's why you bought so close to your workplace, so you get home in time to watch Jim Cramer because your too stupid to program your TIVO. For your sake I hope CNBC doesn't cancel the show or you're going to have go dig up that dart board you have stored in the back of your closet just in case.

"... You getting you ass kicked by a bunch of high school girls or taking the private car service to Laguardia..." = total nonsequitur. But we expect this from you, so no surprise there, I suppose. You're just playing to type. Crowing about the fact that you save people on subways, however, while trying to suggest in the very same post how safe and terrific subways are to those who don't need/want to use them = total contradiction. But again, we expect this from you, so no surprise there, I suppose.

Ohhh - now you pull out the "gay" card when you've run out of other names to call people! How positively classy and sensitive (I don't care what you call me, but it IS a nasty word to throw around when you intend it as a negative stereotype - but sadly, again, we expect this from you, so no surprise there, I suppose). "...gay british boyfriends...underage hookers...cheap heroin...hookers...small dick...drill bit rammed up your ass..." Man - you really just have no game left, do you? Is that really the BEST you can do? You still haven't refuted my assertion that you live in a crappy little studio or one bedroom, you still haven't refuted my aseertion that you live outside of Manhattan in a crappy area, you still haven't refuted my assertion that you have little or no net worth. In fact, all you have offered up to us is the fact that you "left" your last job (riiiiight), and that you're now in some partnership where you're (heh-heh) making OTHER people an epic fortune in Texas oil fields that they've all actually gone down to visit and driven around in pick up trucks - except for you, of course, who hasn't been down and driven around the oil fields in a pick up truck, and hasn't made a fortune living in your one bed/studio crapshack in some crap area while working with incredibly high end and sophistcated investors advising them on 'niche markets.' Do you get at all how lame, desperate, sad, lonely, and downright ridiculous you actually sound?

I also can't believe you were stupid enough to bring up Jim Cramer. Any douche knows he's a total tool, and has known this for many eons - but I guess that's why you brought him up, come to think of it.

You really, really, really should rethink how you address this board. Hate mongering and potty mouth stereotyping is a sad and ignorant way to behave no matter how angry you are, and belies how much of a vacuous line of reasoning you subject us to when you sit down at your keyboard, slackjawed and drooling, like a cow watching its first choo-choo train going by.

Pull your shit together, and act like an adult.

Anyone else get the feeling that these 2 fighting anonymous posters are actually one person?

Your not the one to be lecturing people on how to act like an adult, especially since you seem to have made no major progress growing up in the last 48 hours, or do you remember your comments in #36 "what - no fight left? -- BRING IT ON, MOFO!", pathetic keyboard warrior of Streeteasy?

Speaking of refuting assertions and negative stereotypes,

Your not the one to lecture people about stereotypes either, because in typical Manhattan dwelling fashion you stereotyped basically everyone who lives outside of Manhattan, in the boroughs and beyond. So what if someone lives in LIC, or the Bronx or Brooklyn or Staten Island? You keep zeroing in on that like it's some kind of ultimate vindication for you pathetic little ego. Your small self's identity and self worth is so bound up in that tiny box in the sky that you don't even realize less than 3 miles away in the middle of Queens (and other boroughs), there are people who are harder working and smarter but maybe a little less fortunate in that they were recent immigrants who didn't have a head start of being born in this great country or the privilege of a better education. Those are the people you, and a lot of the other posters here shit on. So don't be surprised when someone addresses the pathetic crowd on this board however they please. It's time for a little self reflection on who starts the stereotyping. Your pretentious bullshit is so deeply ingrained in you and comes so naturally, you need a certain type of response (even if it seems like its a little off the wall sometimes) for you to realize it. Consider my responses to you and other like minded individuals here a favor.

Having cleared that up.

The reason I haven't told you where I lived is because its a very, very nice community that I dont want ruined by having assholes like you move in it. If you got on a subway to look for it, you might have to pass through a slightly rougher area that would send your pussy self into such a panic that you'd be jumping across the train platform heading straight back across the East River. I don't care to pay 2 million for a tiny 1000 square foot apartment, when I can have 4000+ square feet for the same price. I have lived in the city (Manhattan) and I worked in the city, I'm not a 20 year old anymore who has to go bar or club hopping every night.

The gay comment, admittedly, may have been a little too harsh, you complained and nitpicked like a wuss about the others, but the real surprise is that the comment you may have voted for George Bush twice didn't seem to bug you at all. Even if you didn't (vote for him twice) you avoided that comment as if you were some, major, major Republican sympathizer. If that is the case (I am truly surprised at how you whined and moaned about all the others, yet missed that one), do us all a favor, take a break from this board and go out and repair some of the damage you have done.

Oh, I see now!

When I zero in on the fact as to where you live, that's BAD, but when you make comments as in last post "...Your small self's identity and self worth is so bound up in that tiny box in the sky..." well, that's fine. Hmmm - I smell a double standard there. Oh wait, I forgot - contradictory behavior and irony are things completely lost on you. So sorry.

And it's nice to see that we both have the same amount of square footage.

Wow - and now with STILL no coherent argument left, it's time to attack people's politics! So easy to do! Accomplishes nothing! And I didn't respond the first time because it was such a non sequitur, it wasn't worth it. But since you asked, voted Democrat. Last time. We'll see who the 'candidates' (yuch) are this time, and make a decision then. I don't vote parties - I vote the person.

As for damage done, maybe you should deal with your own career path for now, kiddo...