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would appreciate your comments on the quote that we got for our electrical work - is $39,000 crazy? Electrical Electrical as per plan $ 39000 Remove: • piping & wiring in walls to be demolished • re-feed wiring (switches, outlets, lighting) de-energized by demo Install wiring for appliances: • micro • 2 dishwasher • refrigerator • stove • washer • dryer • wine cooler Install wiring for: •... [more]
would appreciate your comments on the quote that we got for our electrical work - is $39,000 crazy? Electrical Electrical as per plan $ 39000 Remove: • piping & wiring in walls to be demolished • re-feed wiring (switches, outlets, lighting) de-energized by demo Install wiring for appliances: • micro • 2 dishwasher • refrigerator • stove • washer • dryer • wine cooler Install wiring for: • switches (approx 24) • outlets (approx 37) • track feeds (approx 5) • recessed lights (approx 5) • surface-mount lights (approx 11) • bathroom fans (approx 2) • TV wring (approx 3) • under cabinet lighting Install in masonry: • switches, outlets, lights, etc.(aprox 51 throughout apartment) Install: • tracks* • fixtures* • under cabinet lights • dimmers, per plan • outlets • switches [less]
Insane. Try John Salzman at Madison Electric - 718-358-4126
leelaura, your building went up around 1960, so the walls may be gypsum block. It's more expensive to channel conduit etc. through that, rather then just threading it through steel studs as you'd do in a newer building. You'll see the difference when they start tearing out the wall between the current dining room and bedroom, versus those newer walls between the kitchen and back bedroom.
I hope you got more than one quote and references. Is the a condo/coop or a house/brownstone,rowhouse,detached home in the City, or Brooklyn/Queens.
Should be closer to $20K.
That is crazy! If this is the sub that works for your contractor, then all your numbers are suspect.
can anyone recommend an electrician?
so - here is the whole estimate - look forward to your comments - 2000 sf apt
Demolition
Remove and dispose, off premise all doors and frames.
Remove and dispose the walls between the dining room and the bedroom and studio
Remove all section of the wall between the entry hall and the kitchen as per construction plans.
Remove all built-in throughout the apartment and built-in cabinetry in existing den.
Remove all under window cabinetry.
Remove kitchen drop ceiling $ 7500
Remove and dispose all carpet and wood floor $ 3500
Protection and covering of the floor and building area to include
Hallways and elevators as per building specs $ 1950
Master bathroom
Remove tub, sink, tile and toilet in the master bathroom $ 2200
Replace shower wall with wonder board $ 900
Install new piping up to the riser with new shut off valve $ 4500
Install owner supplied shower faucet, sink and toilet $ 1500
Build new shower stall with laid pan and water proofing $ 1000
Install owner supplied medicine cabinet $ 350
Install owner supplied floor to ceiling new bathroom wall and
floor tile. Tile the shower ceiling $ 4100
Build a soffit above the shower $ 1000
Open the wall between the closet and the bathroom.
Rebuild a new wall with a niche and a bench $ 1200
Install owner supplied bathroom accessories $ 350
2nd Bathroom
Remove shower stall, sink, tile and toilet $ 2200
Replace shower wall with wonder board $ 900
Install new piping up to the riser with new shut off valve $ 4500
Install owner supplied shower faucet, toilet and sink $ 1500
Install owner supplied medicine cabinet $ 350
Install owner supplied tub $ 350
Install owner supplied floor to ceiling new bathroom wall and
floor tile. Tile the tub ceiling. $ 4100
Build a soffit above the tub $ 1000
Open the wall between the closet and the bathroom.
Rebuild a new wall with a niche and a bench $ 1200
Install owner supplied bathroom accessories $ 350
Guest Bathroom
Remove the tub, sink, tile and toilet $ 2100
Replace shower wall with wonder board $ 900
Install new piping up to the riser with new shut off valve $ 4500
Install owner supplied shower faucet, toilet and sink $ 1500
Install owner supplied medicine cabinet $ 350
Build new shower stall with laid pan and water proofing $ 1000
Install owner supplied floor to ceiling new bathroom wall and
floor tile. Tile the shower ceiling $ 3700
Build a soffit above the shower $ 1000
Install owner supplied bathroom accessories $ 350
Note: Frameless shower door not included
Kitchen
Remove and dispose of all kitchen cabinets, appliances
And counter tops $2100
Install owner supplied new kitchen cabinet $ 5900
Install owner supplied new kitchen back splash tile $ 1200
Replace kitchen plumbing and drain up to the riser including
The two new dishwasher and fridge water supply $ 4900
Install and connect owner supplied appliance, sink and faucet $ 1100
Relocate the gas line $ 1100
Build the laundry room and install owner supplied floor tile $ 3200
Install new washer/dryer plumbing and drain $ 3500
Floor drains are not possible to install because of the concrete floor
Electrical
Electrical as per plan $ 39000
Remove:
• piping & wiring in walls to be demolished
• re-feed wiring (switches, outlets, lighting) de-energized by demo
Install wiring for appliances:
• micro
• 2 dishwasher
• refrigerator
• stove
• washer
• dryer
• wine cooler
Install wiring for:
• switches (approx 24)
• outlets (approx 37)
• track feeds (approx 5)
• recessed lights (approx 5)
• surface-mount lights (approx 11)
• bathroom fans (approx 2)
• TV wring (approx 3)
• under cabinet lighting
Install in masonry:
• switches, outlets, lights, etc.(aprox 51 throughout apartment)
Install:
• tracks*
• fixtures*
• under cabinet lights
• dimmers, per plan
• outlets
• switches
*note: track lights and surface fixtures provided by owner
Flooring
Supply and install new hard wood floor on ¾ plywood.
Price base on a 3 ½ pre-finish white oak $ 24850
Painting
Paint the entire apartment with 1 coat of primer and 2 coat of
Moore Color TBD. Prep all wall, tape and plaster $ 7500
Note: Price include different color for itch room
Carpentry
Supply and install all new 7 foot one panel doors
Supply and install 3 bathrooms frosted glass one panel door
Build new frame $ 3600
Supply and install new 6 “baseboard throughout the apartment $ 5300
Reconfigure master bedroom hallway closet door $ 1500
Other
Build a new closet and supply door in 2nd bedroom $ 1600
Build a new wall with a pocket door in the living room $ 1200
Build a new linen closet with new door in the bathrooms
Build a new closet in 2nd bathroom with no door
Convert guest bathroom sink area in a closet with new door $ 2900
Rebuild a new closet in the office with new door $ 1100
Build a soffit above the fire place $ 1500
Replace the master bedroom closet door with 7 feet door
Re-frame $ 950
Remove all master bedroom closet door molding, repair the
Door patch and sand $ 800
This estimate doesn’t include any permit if needed
Total $ 176,700
http://www.leaderelectric.com/
... report back
just scheduled an appt with them for tomorrow - will keep you all posted - should be interesting.
thanks for your help
Looks like you are adding a lot of lights, outlets, equipment. I suggest you double check with the architect and the contractor to make sure you have enough electrical power coming into the apartment. If your building is a 60's building, electrical power may not be enough for all the stuff we like to put in now; (Found that out the hard way - had to have a second electrical panel installed during our renovation, and somehow our architect and contractor did not inform us until pretty late in the game)
FWIW, you may want to seek a bid from Andrew Galwik at AG ALL Contracting, 718-349-3185. He did my gut reno and, as I've written on other threads, we finished within budget and essentially on time with virtually no punch list.
In our bid, the electrical seemed high but other items were more reasonable than competing bids with lower electrical. Of all the trades, electrical is unquestionably one of, if not the, most expensive.
Our electrical box received greater input from the building than the box was wired to put out into the apartment, so for about $500, we upgraded that aspect of the power supply to the apt so we'd have plenty of power going forward into the future.
Unsought advice: many, many architects and clients over-light living spaces so the place ends up looking like a TV studio. Under-lighting is awful, too, but more is not always better. Really think through the lighting plan carefully in terms of what each light's purpose is and whether the type of light is appropriate to meet that need. Another common mistake is too many switches. More than 3 per light plate and you'll never remember which is which. Be judicious in how many separate circuits you actually need/want. The fewer and more streamlined, the better in my opinion. think about how you will actually live in the space. Often a dimmer is a better solution than separate circuits with multiple switches. Finally, there are downsides to low-voltage recessed lights that should be considered before you specify them everywhere--the transformers have lifespans. Line voltage is preferable in many situations.
Good luck!
strongly agree with your thought re: switches. also consider switched outlets to control multiple lamps from one wall switch. very nice light and extremely simple to turn on all at once (with dimmer as suggested). respectfully disagree re: low voltage. yes transformers do have lifespans but planning for future access if necessary can alleviate the pain. bulbs have incredibly long life span and can be effective if used sparingly in conjunction with lamps.
kw - great info, the only place I disagree with you is on the number of switches. A lot depends on how specific you want to be in lighting a room. I have seen spaces with too few switches so whole room basically lights up, when you'd maybe only want one specific area lit overhead, with other spaces lit by lamps. IMO better to do it during construction, rather than wish you'd done it after.
Also,IMO, almost every light switch controlling overhead lights in a room should be on a dimmer
LeeLlaura - you might also want to consider a music system for the apartment. We put in multiroom speakers, etc. but people on the SE board have spoken very highly of the Sonos system which allows different music in each room. Best time to do this sort of thing is while all your walls and ceilings are open.
You might want to google around to see if you can somehow use your iphone instead of Sonos - much smaller and you don't need wires.
I have 4 recessed 3" lights/room. It makes a huge difference. I like things brightly lit..
and you can use any stereo of your choice...apple airport express or extreme with any rf universal remote control and you're in business. use regular cd player or any mac of your choice as supplier of content through itunes or airfoil.