Did SE just implement Troll Control 2010?

Interesting, why do you think so? I just ask because I'd be surprised if you were the one on the receiving end of troll control.

Sidelinesitter: It appears that several posters with trollish tendencies now seem to be on a blacklist that sets their IDs to "ignore" by default, for all readers. You can see their stuff if you want to, but you have to override the default.

Alanhart is not on the list. I think he was celebrating, not complaining.

ah...didn't realize because i had hfs on ignore. so now she is automatically ignored?

Why isn't columbiacounty on ignore?

Troll Control 2010 is pure genius and should be made permanent! The best part is that the override is post-by-post, so you can see what a particular non-troll poster was replying to, if you particularly want to, without enabling the troll completely.

I think it works well, if only it can be all inclusive of other trolls and vulgar people like

Rhino
w67thstreet
columbiacounty of course being #1

Yet, the poor psychotic is now creating threads that no one can put in ignore, until SE deletes them. This guy needs medication.

i think it's incredibly annoying and inappropriate. assume (just assume) i found certain trolls responses helpful, informative, entertaining, whatever.... i have to click on EVERY comment to reveal and read it? Bad move streeteasy. shame shame on the censorship front. i like my threads pure and untouched - trolls, garbage, and all.

Surprised they did it, but not a bad solution. Just hope they know where to draw the line.

LOL. SE, Happy Humpday.

The real question uwsmom is why some are trolls and some aren't.

Go check out the back and forth about where stevejhx lives and his fight with people from Long Island City. http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/17439-city-real-estate-may-face-smoother-ride-in-2010?page=3

Why can Rhino call a poster a "gay translating accountant" and still be here?

Why does mimi giggle (and post that she is giggling) every time w67thstreet refers to his body parts? And why does w67thstreet refer to his body parts so much? Why did he advocate fraudulent and illegal activity against banks?

Why are aboutready and columbiacounty allowed to curse at people and create hostile environments for new or less frequent posters? Why is columbiacounty allowed to chase around NYCMatt, PH41, Riversider and others and curse at them and make unsubstantiated accusations about them? Why is he allowed to ask posters if they've got flat screen TVs coming out of their butts every time some posters post?

why are bjw and mutumbo allowed to chase each other around constantly?

hsf, it's a free country. I think you of all people should appreciate that. I agree some posters are rude and irritating, but like uwsmom, I don't really believe in censorship here. The "report abuse" link works just fine.

I agree with uwsmom and bjw2103. The new troll control is too big-brother.

I appreciate it is a free country. I'm asking, why am I on the troll list when there are plenty others that should be way ahead of me in being censored? You aren't one of them, nor is mutumbo, but the two of you fighting (or stevejhx with LICC) is no more on one side of the line than others.

I'll take alanhart's side of this one. The worst of the trolls are pretty disruptive to the boards, and I welcome some moderation (prefer that term to "censorship") from SE admin.

I will also be interested in seeing where they draw the line. Is it just the newbie trolls who will get uber-blocked? What about a "regular" who rarely, if ever, posts anything of substance and mostly surfs from thread to thread criticizing others (in at least one case to the point of stalking), cursing, calling names, etc.? Just a hypothetical, mind you. Not that such a person exists. And even if they did exist (although they don't), they definitely wouldn't have already posted on this thread or anything. Just wanted to make that clear.

What about a "regular" who rarely, if ever, posts anything of substance and mostly surfs from thread to thread criticizing others (in at least one case to the point of stalking), cursing, calling names, etc.? Just a hypothetical, mind you. Not that such a person exists. And even if they did exist (although they don't), they definitely wouldn't have already posted on this thread or anything. Just wanted to make that clear.

columbiacounty?

sideline - sounds as if you are somewhat afraid of what you are too nice to call a "regular" troll - why shouldn't SE censor a poster like that?

Leave it up to the individual to determine who to hide. Is the next step SE blocking UES listings because brokers in Midtown buy more ads? And if you are a paying monthly member, I would not want to pay for censorship.

well, at least you can unignore them with the stop ignore button if you really care about what the "trolls" say. I'm amused, but don't really need to read half this shit.

I suggest we blame Canada.

If SE found that hypothetical to be a profitable business decision, they shouldn't hesitate to implement it. And if they find that a new user, poking around the site, would be so turned off by the discussion boards that they wouldn't give the data and other features much of a shot, they shouldn't hesitate to implement reforms to reign in the boards.

They're after stickiness and clickthroughs, and ultimately profits. They're not a public service organization.

And to that end, we can assume, they have no reason to be heavy-handed in applying Troll Control 2010.

It's been a long time coming for the affected usernames (and their continuing aliases).

Lastly, the "broken window" theory applies here.

alanhart
Lastly, the "broken window" theory applies here.

Agree completely. Get rid of broken windows like columbiacounty and Rhino and aboutready, and I'm out of here. That's a promise.

"sideline - sounds as if you are somewhat afraid of what you are too nice to call a "regular" troll - why shouldn't SE censor a poster like that?"

No. I just thought that a sarcastic but indirect post would be more fun to write than one that said directly that if trolls are being banned then columbiacounty should be among them.

Spoke too soon. Now he's uber-blocked.

But SE admin, uber-blocking stevejhx? wtf?

I agree completely that stevejhx should not be Troll Controlled. I also think that CC's contributions are valuable when he's not provoked into civilizing hfs and aliases.

maybe because when I repeatedly post, "w67thstreet, no answer", it isn't too different from when stevejhx repeatedly posts, "Juiceman, no answer"

But I'm ok with steve. steve anyways was the victim of a rather vicious attack from Rhino some months ago, who criticized his sexuality as well as his profession. Steve adds value when he translates. Rhino just buys a stock and then sells it, adding no value whatsoever.

Well, according to aboutready, this is one of SE's policies:
"4.You must not abuse, harass, threaten, impersonate or intimidate other StreetEasy users."

I would agree stevejhx should not be uber-blocked, but he's certainly guilty of incessantly harassing LICC . Was a bit amusing at first, but clearly crossed that line at some point.

ah: thanks for the vote of confidence. perhaps i should simply change my name to columbacomm1?

"I also think that CC's contributions are valuable when he's not provoked into civilizing hfs and aliases."

Sorry alan, but I missed the part where you explained how reacting to hfs/alias provocation has anything to do with months flat out stalking of Riversider.

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I agree completely that stevejhx should not be Troll Controlled. I also think that CC's contributions are valuable when he's not provoked into civilizing hfs and aliases.

columbiacounty needs to be "provoked"? seriously?
and isn't he an adult? aren't adults able to control themselves?
alanhart, I'm disappointed in you.

you're not really going to defend riversider aka hfscomm1, etc, are you?

uwsmom "Bad move streeteasy. shame shame on the censorship front. i like my threads pure and untouched - trolls, garbage, and all."

I agree in principle, but sometimes reading these posts becomes unbearable when two trolls start going at it. The vitriol and personal nature of the attacks are mind numbing. It does seem that certain posters have a mean streak and attack everything and everyone that doesn't agree with them.

At some the interested the informed and the enlightened with me ground down by the bullies and just go away. A pity for the rest of us.

Inconveniently for columbiacounty, I am not any of the other people I've been accused of being. I am not Riversider.

No, sideline, you caught that part when you typed "/alias".

ah - good one. Touche. Almost certainly not the case, however.

AH - it is certainly sad to see you succumbing to CC's paranoia - really thought you had more of a mind of your own.

This thread is helpful in a Brandeis/sunshine way.

My absolute promise is to be gone once others who threaten, stalk, berate, and lie, like columbiacounty, w67thstreet, aboutready, Rhino, etc. are gone.

a little full of yourself? you must be having loads of fun today.

i personally find having people on ignore more visually and mentally distracting/annoying than having their posts available (which i can easily ignore w/o reading).

ah, i see you can now select "stop ignoring this person". unless i'm mistaken, this feature wasn't available earlier today.

Now stevejhx is un-Troll Controlled. About time. Welcome back. Is it just hfs (the one m and two m versions) and cc now? That is just too special. What a cute couple/threesome.

SE should also have a look at petrfitz. Among other gems, the homophobic comment that got deleted from this thread (http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/17535-excellent-newsweek-article) yesterday was WAY out of line.

uwsmom, it doesn't seem to work. you choose it and the person is still on ignore.

This is hilarious.

I love the idea! I don't actually see any difference as I was already ignoring all these people but still...

Maybe they took the blacklist from me? :-)

I've never weighed in on these personal attacks, but really hsfcomm1 is very disruptive. I have often abandoned reading a thread because he had hijacked it for a personal attack.

Very good idea to block him.

GG I'm a avid SE reader but seldom post. I totally agree that hsfcomm1 rarely posts anything of substance and diminishes every thread. He has also stalked and attacked aboutready way beyond any acceptable standard. As for CC and Steve, I think they are among the best SE posters and I look forward to reading their posts.

BRING BACK CC!!!! I keep clicking "stop ignoring" and it doesn't work.. He's not a troll you idiots!!!

i appear to have been hoisted on hfscomm1's petard. such is life.

they sacrificed you to keep him company. totally and completely retarded, as well as spineless.

GG: I have never commented on it either. But I, like you, generally abandon any thread hfs hijacks. I find it harmful, actually. Really, it sets back my meditation by days. I don't condone censorship but this case crossed the line. The stalking and comments were truly creepy and unnerving. If it crossed from the virtual to the real, SE would be held accountable. It was a good decision. As one who has been stalked in the past -- in the old fashioned, real world, way-- let me say that it should never be condoned. It is illegal and just plain flat out weird.

hmm. ar - you're right. this is all so bizarre. as if it wasn't a big enough circus around here already...

Thank you SE: cyber siberia, defrost with a click

bring back CC!

i tried to unignore cc -- will that be the new word of the year?-- and it didn't work. cc was not a stalker and has good RE commentary. He just gets grumpy with one particular poster.

i agree with uwsmom - easier to go the don't read it route.

The unignore cc worked for me.

nyc_sport, for one post or all of them? after selecting unignore, and then going out of the thread, is cc still on unignore elsewhere?

Bring back CC! Hey hey, ho ho, this troll party has got to go.
I thought that was witty...just goes to show how bored I am at work.
oy

Are new topics being approved before posting?

how hysterical would it be if we organized a protest.

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can't even get everyone to a meetup

Glamma: I wish they would bring back CC but the stalking that hfs engaged in was perverse and illegal. SE made a good decision in hfs case. But I think someone should start a thread to reinstate cc. A petition. CC's transgression was to challenge someone he thought to be hfs.

"CC's transgression was to challenge someone he thought to be hfs"

Are you as simple as you sound or is the ignorance willful and as a result gives a false impression of stupidity? Stalking Riversider, cursing and hurling insults started months before hfs even appeared, so your statement is just wrong.

Anyway, the whole Riversider-is-hfs theory is BS to begin with and is just an excuse to try to justify the stalking/troll behavior. The thought process works like this: (1) hfs is the worst troll on SE since at least rufus and maybe ever (probably true, by the way. Personally I thought CarolSt was about as bad); (2) as a result, most people will give me a pass if I attack hfs aggressively, because they will think he deserves it; (3) if I say hfs is Riversider, then I can amp up my attacks on Riversider, which I've been doing anyway, under cover of "attacking hfs"; (4) since there is really no evidence that hfs actually is Riversider, I have to post the claim over and over until people lose sight of the fact that there is no evidence for it and just tart to believe that there must be some reason I'm saying it in the first place.

"He just gets grumpy with one particular poster"

Huh? cc doesn't "get grumpy", as in get annoyed at Riversider in the course of an exchange and then lose his temper. He stalks the discussion boards and blasts out attack posts as soon as he sees Riversider post something, whether it's the usual Riversider crap or the occasional decent post that Riversider manages to come up with. cc is grumpy about Riversider's existence on SE and is trying to make posting uncomfortable and drive Riversider off the boards. That is stalking. There is no other description for it. When I compare this to hfs vs. aboutready, I see a significant difference in degree (hfs much worse, obviously), but not a difference in kind. Of course the other difference is that hfs admits that he is stalking another poster and trying to drive her off the boards, while cc has his disingenuous "hfs is Riversider" schtick, which obviously wore out its welcome with SE admin.

Back with a vengeance.

:)

or...remarkably enough...hfs is riversider. in which case...

sidelinesitter, agreed. Like I said before, the line is fuzzy; let's just dispense with the censorship and move on.

Predictions:

1. columbiacounty is only in the penalty box. SE is making an example of him both to moderate his behavior and make some of the more obnoxious regulars think twice before they post (or stalk). He'll be back soon enough. If this is the plan, I support it. If the warning doesn't work, then banishment would be in order

2. the hfs's, comm1 and com1, are done, and if by some miracle hfscomm2 or a different handle with similar behavior and a toilet fetish should appear, they'll be done pretty quickly too

3. jimhones09 (the only other handle that I've found on Troll Control). Don't know, don't care

i really don't care who comes and goes (though, if i were being personally attacked on a regular basis i'm sure i would feel differently), i just don't want "ignore" forced down my throat.

or anything.....

i've been pretty anti-censorship myself. you should try being stalked, uwsmom.

why should i try? seems pretty horrible. i'm sorry that it's happening to you :(

poor choice of words. ignore is very useful, but i swear the hatred just seeps through. many of the light-hearted posters disappear, and who can blame them? and that is hsf's goal. to destroy the board.

sideline: okay, as a newbie perhaps i am unaware of the extent of cc's transgression -- and please note I qualified it as a transgression. whereas hfs's perversity is blatant to the most casual browser. point taken. but really. a little harsh, buddy. don't ya think?

In any case cc is back.

We are still working out the kinks ;-)

sidelinesitter pretty much nailed it.

We will write more once we've finished the last round of changes tomorrow.

AR - I certainly understand how you feel, but in a weird way hsf has actually united this board - everyone wants to see him/her go.

Other posters also dissuade discussion on this board (Rhino86 leaps to mind), nobody is getting on their cases.

i don't think you can compare rhino or anyone else for that matter to hfs. rhino has a very specific point of view which he hammers at consistently. to the extent that you leave him alone, he leaves everyone else alone. hfs set out to attack a small group of posters and has done so incessantly and for no other reason than to attack.

Hmmmm ... rhino ... hfs. Didn't they have a special relationship? Like at-each-other's-throats special. How odd that the subject of rhino would even come up at this point.

murray, yes, it's true. and it has happened before, as well. but it has been a strange and rather tense few months. a very sincere shout out to AH, w67th, inonada and jimstreeteasy, among others, for lightening the tone and enabling me to laugh quite a bit in the face of lunacy.

Stalking-lite. On Riversider's case in less than 2 minutes, but using uncharacteristically civil language.
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/17590-did-obama-reallly-say-cspan

whoa partner...aren't you stalking me?

actually, I'm stalking stalking.

Hey SE, I love the Kinks. I'm a dedicated Follower of Fashion.

sls, stalking light kind of seems like an oxymoron. rs has a tendency to post non-RE related threads. SE recently posted that they are making every effort to keep threads RE related (one can see why).

Hey ar, wishing you a happy new year.

to you too dwell.

Me three.

see where you are coming from on the oxymoron point, esp. given your recent experience with full-on stalking. let's say harrassment instead. and no argument from me that the Riversider post was non-RE drivel, but the ambush (sequence and combatants) was far too classic to be left without comment.

wow

I like the new function

Wow I take almost a whole day off SE, (not a New Year's Resolution but close) and the world shifts. Yeah...I got so sick of hfs comments in virtually every thread and his unwarrented personal attacks on contributors, it got tough to read SE at times. I agree that Steve and CC should not be on the list, they can be contentious at times but have knowledge to share and, agree or not, passionate opinions on relevant topics. Their posts are not merely personal attacks.

Looks like someone read my comment about "Tachy goes to Coventry". Maybe SE mgmt reads my posts after all.

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SE should also have a look at petrfitz. Among other gems, the homophobic comment that got deleted from this thread (http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/17535-excellent-newsweek-article) yesterday was WAY out of line.

Did you miss when Rhino called stevejhx a "gay translating accountant" when Rhino was unable to win an argument? Why is Rhino still here. I know stevejhx forgave Rhino, but if one homosexual person forgives homophobic attacks, does that make it ok? Especially given Rhino's violent tendencies.

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Yet, the poor psychotic is now creating threads that no one can put in ignore, until SE deletes them. This guy needs medication.

mimi, don't you think there is something wrong with a non physician making medical diagnoses?

Shameful, just like in Argentina where you walk over poor people (as you've said) on your way to do your daily business.

By the way, you've also started useless threads and attack threads (that have been deleted). You've also posted a thread criticizing another poster who suggested that non-real estate threads should be deleted. So you don't have a consistent record.

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i appear to have been hoisted on hfscomm1's petard. such is life.

as I have always intended would happen. You are repugnant in the way you treat others. And if I can work my way into the gutter and drag you along with me then I'm achieving my goal because no one else but me has stooped as low as you are.

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... As one who has been stalked in the past -- in the old fashioned, real world, way-- let me say that it should never be condoned. It is illegal and just plain flat out weird.

a) no, not illegal, not stalking
b) yes weird. and purposely so

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i tried to unignore cc -- will that be the new word of the year?-- and it didn't work. cc was not a stalker

really? which one poster would that be? ph41? NYCMatt? Riversider? carolst? ...

Immediately and automatically posting every time after some of the above, calling people idiot ... that's not stalking by the same definition you use on me?

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poor choice of words. ignore is very useful, but i swear the hatred just seeps through. many of the light-hearted posters disappear, and who can blame them? and that is hsf's goal. to destroy the board.

nope, I have never attacked a "light-hearted poster" Never.

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We are still working out the kinks ;-)
sidelinesitter pretty much nailed it.
We will write more once we've finished the last round of changes tomorrow.

Agree

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i've been pretty anti-censorship myself. you should try being stalked, uwsmom.

well it is true you have been anti-censorship. You've had the gall to criticize two sitting judges, one a NYS judge, one now a Supreme Court Associate Justice using the credentials of your husband as a managing partner of a major NYC law firm.