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Started by julia
over 15 years ago
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does the drop in the euro affect manhattan real estate or does it?
Response by Riversider
over 15 years ago
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What does it do to U.S. Exports?

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Response by urbandigs
over 15 years ago
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Julia, if the US dollar gets more expensive for foreigners with Euros to spend, what do you think are the affects the currency moves may have on our markets:

1. for buyers?
2. for foreign owners of Manhattan real estate?

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Response by inonada
over 15 years ago
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Why does everyone answer julia's question with more questions?

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Response by urbandigs
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why not, lost does it

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Response by Riversider
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It's not something that can really be answered. First you'd have to agree the two were correlated.. and I'm not sure there is a relationship, let alone a strong one.

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Response by marco_m
over 15 years ago
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I think on a macro level its bad becuase it just adds to the pile of economic uncertainty. On a micro level, you could see european investors sell RE investments becuase the the monthly carry becomes much greater if they have to pay in $$.

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Response by julia
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inonada..thank you..it appears that some posters don't acknowledge my intelligence...what it really means is my life does not revolve around sitting in front of a laptop or real estate.

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Response by w67thstreet
over 15 years ago
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'lost does it'. Now thatz funny.

Julia, the euro tanking is significant for nycers.
1) all the euros buyers with dollar debt need to work harder to service such debt;
2) future euro buyers will now have to account for fx risk, doubt any of them even hedged this exposure much less even thought about it in the past 4 yrs as it worked in their favor;
3) the Chinese buyers of NYC re which made most of their money on exports have seen their price competitiveness decrease as euro and dollar have fallen, meaning they are gonna be in a less spendy mood;
4) rich Americans can now work their currency in their favor to buy foreign goods, including a French villa versus a euro trash owning 200 rsb $1500psf pretend a 'owner'.

Excellent time to be cash in dolllars. The credit that was is being contracted, and rightfully so. 1% on savings is unnatural and is a govt way to spur spending and take care of debt holders, which were the exact policy decisions which led us to housing bubble and global trade imbalances all around. The next 10 yrs will be the years of the 'sacers', the mkt is forcing the issue first with Greece now the world.

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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How will all those Europeans be able to come to New York and but all the excess RE.

How will our market survive?

It's Doomsday I tell you!

Ohhh, and that scratchy low grade TP is really bugging my ass.

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Response by mets2009
over 15 years ago
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Back when the Dollar/Eur conversion was 1.5/1, a $1.5 million property would cost EUR 1 million, now with the conversion rate aroung 1.23/1, that same property cost EUR 1.22 million. Therefore, you would think the devaluing of the Euro would to some extent, decrease the number of foreign purchasers.

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Response by truthskr10
over 15 years ago
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"why not, lost does it"

LOL, the true brilliance of the show. The end will no doubt disappoint.

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Response by julia
over 15 years ago
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w67thstreet...you're the best..thst's the info i was lookong for

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Response by w67thstreet
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Euro strength or weakness is really a symptom of the lack of visibility on credit risk both sovereign and company specific. This is leading to a greater risk premium for loans for all types of things but specifically how banks lend to eac other, 'libor' which our system uses to set mortgage rates and resets. Terrible terrible time to have debt in a deflationary period. Hope all you lemmings paid off your debt.

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Response by urbandigs
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i can sum up this way:

1. It makes prospective EURO buyers purchasing power DECLINE noticeably, as the dollar is now more expensive
2. It incentivizes current euro foreign owners to sell to take advantage of rise in their dollar based asset

In fact, foreigners who bought in all cash with their EUROS at peak can likely now cancel out any losses on their asset from the appreciation of the dollar alone! Thats quite an incentive dont you think for those that fit in that group?

You bought at 1.5m near peak, the asset declined 15%, and you can sell now if fx stays where it is and likely not even see a loss!

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