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I vote for outing Jim Hones and the counties. Let's have a work e-mail, I want to talk to their boss.

Why has it taken so long for trollcunty to re-post the naked Greco-Roman wrestling thing? a goldbricking troll, just what the world needs.

the crowd boos.

Why has it taken so long for trollcunty to re-post the naked Greco-Roman wrestling thing? a goldbricking troll, just what the world needs.

I don't know, I didn't see it as dishonest or hypocritical.
And frankly, 2 weeks ago I thought I hadn't seen anything lower than aboutready's avoidance of her husband during his time of need and selfishness staying on vacation while he was morning his father's death.

But that's been eclipsed by
w67thstreet who thinks that a mother who killed her 4 kids is ok, but the real estate industry is instead to blame.
kylewest, who falesely defamed someone by name on streeteasy. His false defamation was by far worse than what the broker did which was simply an innocent sloppiness. And how many hours has it been and there's still no apology from kylewest who just wants it to disappear.

So in context, alan, aboutready isn't that interesting anymore, and certainly Greco-Roman wrestling isn't wrong and doesn't point out that she is a hypocrite or liar like many many of the other things she's posted.

"morning".

irregardless.

That's actually kind of funny.
At one point I spelled "behaviour" and so w67thstreet assumed I was British. Or Canadian. And took that assumption pretty far.

Anyway, hore or whore, the intention is the same, as you would know.

"Irregardless" reflects a substantial misunderstanding of the English language. Misspellings can be considered poor translation of spoken language to written language. Making up words like "irregardless" reflect both a hubris and ignorance, a great combination, almost like "strategery" and "I'm the decider".

aboutready
32 minutes ago
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report abuse outnumbered, really? you've done a poll?

how many positive interactions have you had here, honesy? can you count them on one hand or two? people saying thanks, honesy.

do your wife and kid pay attention to you during your rants? and since you ostensibly don't have a lot of time with the kid during the day as you "work" why do you spend your evening hours here?

someone who has never done a day of it in their lives shouldn't put the word "work" in quotes.

my daughter is an infant. i spend mornings, some lunches, and weekends with her. my wife is into co-sleeping, so she sometimes sleeps in our bed. we're a happy family.

where's cc? what does he have to say now? am i hfs? is riversider? are we all the same person? there are drugs that can help people like him get through their delusions.

You are hfscomm1.

and riversider too? all of us? how come i'm still here? how come riversider is?

what about penthouse lady?

how about Truth?

Why is hfscomm1 still here?

maly
32 minutes ago
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report abuse I vote for outing Jim Hones and the counties. Let's have a work e-mail, I want to talk to their boss

are you on drugs? do you think in a second i'd post from work, or with a work email? let's have your work email

never done a day of it? right. worked for over twenty years "out of the house".

i'd actually consider anyone who could be me, riversider and all of the counties AND whomever else a genius of some kind....i'm smart but.....

columbiacounty
1 minute ago
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report abuse Why is hfscomm1 still here?

columbiacounty, you do realize that your status is still on default ignore, right? anyone new to streeteasy has to choose to unhide you on a case by case basis.

And didn't you say you were hsfcomm1? Maybe you were sarcastic. Aboutready says I don't understand irony.

That's your idea of a genius?

Kind of on a par with Edison and Einstein?

No, did I say that?

underwhelmed.

Oh, sorry, let me switch to pretenting I'm jim_hones, for the sake of columbiacounty and apt23's convenience (I actually give more credit to both aboutready and w67thstreet (and mimi) for having a clue about life generally and this topic more specifically).

do you consider actors, writers, musicians (creative types) etc genius'?....no, you don't..because you're a narrow-minded nazi piece of shit.

my point is that if anyone could actually be 3, 4, 5 different personas in the same thread, they'd have a talent i've not encountered in many people.

Oh how revolting you are. Congratulating yourself for being a turd.

Woah, the Nazi card is a pretty harsh one.

What is a Troll?
An Internet troll is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually "he") tries to start arguments and upset people. It's ALL about "Getting Attention", and negative attention is as good as positive attention to a troll.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't get that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility while hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard and monitor.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, Surely there is something I can write that will change them. But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
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Trolled jim_hones10, how so?: "my point is that if anyone could actually be 3, 4, 5 different personas in the same thread, they'd have a talent i've not encountered in many people."

Splain yourself.

you're still on the same tangent. you know you're wrong. it's so obvious we aren't the same person, but you can't actually admit it, because you'd look like worse fool than you do nightly. i guess the fact that ALL of the other accounts are deleted practically daily, yet riversider and i are not just doesn't sink in.

"Splain yourself."

irregardless?

What is a Troll?
An Internet troll is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually "he") tries to start arguments and upset people. It's ALL about "Getting Attention", and negative attention is as good as positive attention to a troll.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't get that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility while hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard and monitor.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, Surely there is something I can write that will change them. But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
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dnfcc

looking in the mirror and wondering what went wrong bud?

signs and symptoms of schizophrenia:

"Depending on the individual, a person diagnosed with schizophrenia may experience hallucinations (most commonly hearing voices), delusions (often bizarre or persecutory in nature), and disorganized thinking and speech. The latter may range from loss of train of thought, to sentences only loosely connected in meaning, to incoherence known as word salad in severe cases. There is often an observable pattern of emotional difficulty, for example lack of responsiveness or motivation. Impairment in social cognition is associated with schizophrenia, as are symptoms of paranoia, and social isolation commonly occurs. In one uncommon subtype, the person may be largely mute, remain motionless in bizarre postures, or exhibit purposeless agitation; these are signs of catatonia.

Late adolescence and early adulthood are peak years for the onset of schizophrenia. In 40% of men and 23% of women diagnosed with schizophrenia, the condition arose before the age of 19.[11] These are critical periods in a young adult's social and vocational development. To minimize the developmental disruption associated with schizophrenia, much work has recently been done to identify and treat the prodromal (pre-onset) phase of the illness, which has been detected up to 30 months before the onset of symptoms, but may be present longer.[12] Those who go on to develop schizophrenia may experience the non-specific symptoms of social withdrawal, irritability and dysphoria in the prodromal period,[13] and transient or self-limiting psychotic symptoms in the prodromal phase before psychosis becomes apparent.[14]
"

paranoia....delusion....CC

What is a Troll?
An Internet troll is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually "he") tries to start arguments and upset people. It's ALL about "Getting Attention", and negative attention is as good as positive attention to a troll.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't get that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility while hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard and monitor.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, Surely there is something I can write that will change them. But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
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"delusions, often bizarre and persecutory in nature"

can't wait for the catatonia to set in

What is a Troll?

An Internet troll is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet like following around Riversider or several other posters with short "witty" one-liners repeatedly over an hour and throught the day. He (and it is usually "he" even if it is a she) tries to start arguments and upset people. It's ALL about "Getting Attention" (good use of quotation marks), and negative attention is as good as positive attention to a troll.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game, for instance a man who has nothing to do and is still angry because he saw an apartment with a window in it that wasn't frosted. For some reason, they don't get that they are hurting real people like columbiacounty or aboutready who freely admits personal information that is actually quite unflattering, but she does it with pride, or apt23 who admitted to commiting a crime involving wasting police resources, or w67thstreet who is a bit too naked around children. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction, uh. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict, oh intersting, I didn't know columbiacounty was actually being hurt, who knew columbiacounty was so sensitive, or aboutready who actually said she hates her father and said she grew up in a trailer trash environment and actually admitted that when her husband's father died she wanted to be on vacation. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish - ah, the net!, where's Sandra Bullock?.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame (aboutready?) or compassion; you cannot reason with them (w67thstreet?). They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility (like w67thstreet and apt23 who supported the mother who killed her 4 kids, instead finding blame in the real estate industry) while hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard and monitor.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, Surely there is something I can write that will change them. But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.

What is a Troll?
An Internet troll is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually "he") tries to start arguments and upset people. It's ALL about "Getting Attention", and negative attention is as good as positive attention to a troll.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't get that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility while hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard and monitor.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, Surely there is something I can write that will change them. But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
Top

What is a Troll?

An Internet troll is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet like following around Riversider or several other posters with short "witty" one-liners repeatedly over an hour and throught the day. He (and it is usually "he" even if it is a she) tries to start arguments and upset people. It's ALL about "Getting Attention" (good use of quotation marks), and negative attention is as good as positive attention to a troll.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game, for instance a man who has nothing to do and is still angry because he saw an apartment with a window in it that wasn't frosted. For some reason, they don't get that they are hurting real people like columbiacounty or aboutready who freely admits personal information that is actually quite unflattering, but she does it with pride, or apt23 who admitted to commiting a crime involving wasting police resources, or w67thstreet who is a bit too naked around children. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction, uh. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict, oh intersting, I didn't know columbiacounty was actually being hurt, who knew columbiacounty was so sensitive, or aboutready who actually said she hates her father and said she grew up in a trailer trash environment and actually admitted that when her husband's father died she wanted to be on vacation. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish - ah, the net!, where's Sandra Bullock?.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame (aboutready?) or compassion; you cannot reason with them (w67thstreet?). They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility (like w67thstreet and apt23 who supported the mother who killed her 4 kids, instead finding blame in the real estate industry) while hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard and monitor.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, Surely there is something I can write that will change them. But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.

apt23
about 8 hours ago
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report abuse I think that only this one deranged poster should be disabled. Some inexcusable language and positions by other posters should not be subject to extreme sanctions. And though I am a staunch advocate for privacy issues, I believe that if this one troll -- who is well known to SE-- is in fact in the broker business, he should be outed. There are clearly issues of mental stability with this troll. If he is a broker as he has claimed, it is dangerous for him to be taking hapless victims into empty apartments and apartment buildings. What is the legal responsibility of SE and what is the moral responsibility of those of us who can't deny that this particular troll is in serious need of help from the medical community?

My young niece is out looking for apts. I have made her take a friend with her to every viewing because I'm terrified she will come across this troll. And now I wonder if I have put her friend in harm's way also. This guy is off the charts whacko.

apt23, let your "niece" know that there are different ways that young girls like her might typically try and negotiate the broker fee. two girls might equate to an even steeper discount. if they find the right agent. i'm a married man though....and kids out of college can't typically afford my listings...

apt23 http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/19929
about 3 months ago
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...

cc: re: police. I once lived across an alley from a man with a terrace who would masterbate on the terrace every day while he stared at our building with binoculars. Imagine raising your blinds to that every day. Everyone in the building complained for months but the police would do nothing because it wasn't illegal (imagine!). Finally I called and said we had called a dozen times and because they would do nothing, my husband went out to buy a gun (not true, he is a pacifist). The police were at my door in minutes. I reasoned with them and asked them to think of their mother in my apt and please go talk to him. They did. Problem solved. Hopefully our deranged one has a semblance of sanity and can grasp implications. But again, problem would be solved if SE blocked poster.

^ notice lie to police - filing a false police report. And at her husband no less

still underwhelmed.

sadly underwhelmed?

remember the sadly part

no.

If the troll is a real estate professional, SE should out him

@MRussell or anyone else that wants to contribute to a more evolved system, should absolutely feel free to contact us. We will invite you to meet with us and will give consideration to any serious ideas.

To suggest we don't spend enough time on the forums, or that there are easy tech fixes which we are too stupid or lazy to implement is silly. Banning an IP/email/name does ZERO. We would far prefer to spend our time creating a great real estate site for everyone than endless sorting through drivel.

We've been through many iterations and the feedback we get directly indicates that people are happier with the current system than they have ever been.

But after almost five years of doing this, our antipathy towards those in the forums who give little and take much has grown large.

I'm guessing that the next stop in the forums is one where you're voted into silence by your peers, or that non-real estate talk is whacked with wild abandon.

Again, If you have thoughts, you should send them to us directly: support@streeteasy.com

I like "silence by your $10-paying peers".

I'd definitely take strong advice from the person who is selling condo-hotels. They are such a good investment.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/1321-hotel-condo
MRussell
about 5 months ago
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Hello everyone (I would address individual posters but you are all Anons!). I actually represent a lot of hotel-condo listings at 1 CPW alongside my father Doug and I'll be happy to address your question(s).

Perhaps it would even be better if the person selling those great investments also called himself Seacrest.

MRussell
about 3 months ago
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report abuse @ 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO: You are focusing on the most mundane aspects of this conversation. If your username holds any weight and you have actually been in real estate for 30 years, my comment to Riversider would make perfect sense. Would you want do deal with someone over email without ever speaking with them or would you rather have a serious conversation with them on the phone, or better yet, in person while showing them the listing you are discussing? I understand that Riversider is asking a lot of questions (some of which are good) but he is just asking questions to ask questions. There is enough information in this post that anyone interested in a hotel condo can probably figure out if it is for them or not. And if it is, they would probably give me a call and not ask important financial questions in a public forum. And on that note...

Seacrest out.

30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
about 3 months ago
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report abuse "Seacrest out."

Appropriate: you're on the wrong site.

I agree with Inonada. "Silence by your $10 paying peers".

Sounds good. But how would it work?

Dreamer, Streeteasy was being cheeky

SE, we want you to focus on making a great RE site as well, not playing hall monitor for a bunch of juveniles (many of us included in that category). Many people here spend a lot of time here and would be happy to individually or collectively enforce a policy set forth by you. I suggest you take advantage of the free labor.

"Dreamer, Streeteasy was being cheeky"

Perhaps, but what they're suggesting wouldn't be that different from what they do at other sites (ie: engadget) where users can "vote into silence." Frankly, I'm all for it. That and direct private messaging.

How does that work?

bj,
would just encourage clicks to vote out people they don't like. Kind of like Survivor meets Easy Street.

Riversider/cc, it would obviously take more than one (or a few clicks) to zap a comment. Obviously, it can be a fine line, but at a certain point it becomes the community's responsibility to take care of itself. I think it would work better than you think, and would be better than the system currently in place. As inonada said, it shouldn't really be SE's burden to wade through drivel on the forums.

But let's not lose sight of the fact that the whole problem revolves around one determined poster who has no interest other than disruption.

"would just encourage clicks to vote out people they don't like. Kind of like Survivor meets Easy Street."

RS, I don't care for most of your posts. It's not really the views, just the topic lines are not interesting to me. However, that doesn't mean I'd vote you off the island. There's a difference between disagreement, on views and/or topic, and disingenuousness. I think a selected subset of genuine posters, given guidelines from SE, can implement their SE's desires.

What would you suggest be done?

RS, I don't care for most of your posts either.

RS, I don't care for most of your posts either.

You picked an interesting moniker. Have you seen the website of the same name Is this by design?

That makes three of us so far.

Close your eyes and imagine that it is by design ... what are you feeling now?

I don't really care for RS' posts either. But contrary to what he might think, I don't think any of them merit total zapping. See how that works now?

you can just put RS on ignore if you don't like the posts. it's like the people who complain about violence or sex on TV - if you don't like it, change the channel.

I'm going to start cracking up when we get to a third page of posts on the 'complaining about excessive posting' thread....

Some people would rather discuss Snooki. I'm not one of them. sorry

Or real estate. But whatever works for you. I don't mind the presence of slightly off-topic stuff, I just don't read it if it doesn't interest me.

I post a great deal on real estate, but to properly discuss it you must acknowledge economics and politics.
There's a great deal going on with the NAR and congress that impacts real estate. Also one's view of what inflation is impacts how one views real estate as an investment.

the good guys have won this round...

the good guys have won this round...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vueJNE3y0iA

I will cast my vote with the "I disagree with RS (loudly) but don't find him censurable" group. Do I find him potentially ignorable? Yes. Do I wish he would start his threads on more appropriate sites like Foxnews.com or anything devoted to the worship of Ayn Rand and the Pauls rather than on SE? Yes. Do I put him on a level with comms and counties? Absolutely not! I'd like to hope for more on-topic posting but "let she who is without sin" cast the first stone and I've pulled to many threads off the mark with tales of Olde New York that I don't think I have the right to make that case.

I think SE should appoint volunteer moderators from among the regular posters who are "on duty" at a certain time each week and can warn people when they are straying too far or pushing the boundaries of decency. I hate censorship but I don't agree with personal attacks either, especially when they are needlessly, endlessly repeated.

Liz...Agreed. Well said.

Liz: Agree with the first part.

Who would the voluteer moderaters be? Who can actually be on duty at a certain time each week?

What if they have to do something, uh, important?

And voluteers can't prevent somebody from endlessly responding to the trolls. They do it because they enjoy it.

I just scroll on by.

Yes, I know : volunteers.

somewhereelse: Totally agree with you on that. I just wanted to check to see why falcogold had been deleted. But he wasn't really. What up with that?

I don't think anyone should be silenced except the deranged troll. His objective is to railroad the entire site and spew his invective on particular posters --especially those who point out his obvious mental problems. I don't think anyone should be expunged for being boring, off-topic or even rude --especially since some of it is intentionally humorous and provides a little entertainment for our dry subject of choice. I think to vote someone off should be an extremely rare event and I believe this particular troll has hit the mark.

I wasn't deleted, I noticed a string of delets an I thought that SE had gone a little too far to the right. Upon review I see that the deletes were all phoney posts by the 'LOSER'. The original point is moot but, it did stimulate much need relief from the summer RE slumber.

falcogold: For a deleted comment, and a disabled account, your discussion is going on here.

Any lists? Your fans await.

RS, when one of your threads disinterests me, I simply skip it. If others interest me, I read. Simple enough, I'm sure you do the same with me. I was simply pointing out that I am not bothered by your posts, even if I sometimes find them uninteresting. I don't care for political posts from anyone, really. You'll notice that I rarely comment on them.

You never answered the question, though. What do you suggest to fix the problem?

Inonada, I think the cure would be worse than the disease. But here are a few suggestions.
1) Language filter
2) New logins have to be approved(24 hours, so the user can be verified and avoid multiple accounts)

What makes the threads so bad are he people who take it upon themselves to engage in the back-forth over an entire nights dialogue. If it wasn't for that you would have 2 ignored comments instead of 100.

I'm sure it would not be a good idea for SE to have a 24 hr wait for new logins. Bad marketing. New posters should be encouraged not exiled. It would be more prudent to limit the number of usernames. Possibly to only one. Afterall, how anonymous does a viable anonymous poster have to be? Even if a troll had numerous IP's/computer access, there are bound to be less available outlets for a new user name than there are counties.

Riversider: That's what keeps the trolls coming back for more. Exactly.

Riversider,

1) ... appropriate for a parochial school; of no importance here.
2) ... verified HOW? Against freemail addy du jour?

I don't think so.

apt23, right on the first part of your post. Missing the point on the second: the current technology and methodology does not allow limits to number of usernames per person. A sea change is needed.

Alan... 1 Don't think so. My wife attributes my "potty mouth" to my 12 year Jesuit education.

Thanks alan. I not only find that surprising, I find it shocking. If you enter an email address in connection with your username, are you sure a new username cannot be blocked? Or are you saying that SE is not set up that way. I guess I have tried one too many times to get a free trial after an expensive subscription has expired. The blocked access is now part of my psyche.

NYCDreamer, your wife is correct. AMDG!

24 hour wait for new logins is not going to work because people come to this site to ask RE questions (we hope) and that often happens at the start of a sell or buy exploratory.

In terms of how you would manage volunteer moderators, I would set it up like most volunteer jobs. People volunteer for the days and times they are most likely to have time. Should something come up at the last minute which happens, just notify SE. There should probably be a a back up available for each time as well. I would make the shifts very short (2 hours) and recommend that regulars sign up for 1-2 per week, not more and probably not less than 1 ever 2 weeks (or choose not to participate). I'd like to believe that we can go from midnight to 8 am without a monitor....

All the moderators would responsible for doing is reading the board and active threads, reporting really nasty stuff to SE and perhaps trying to nudge some conversations back on track.

As much as I don't like a few words, I am absolutely against a language filter. Children aren't interested in RE and I would imagine if you are old enough to care about the issues we discuss (when we aren't acting like children), you've already heard "fuck" a time or two.

apt23, there's no limit to how many freemail (gmail, hotmail, mail.yahoo, mail.com, and thousands of others) accounts one can open, few questions asked and no answers verified. Once that's done, under SE's current system, you're always opening your first SE account, even if you're not.

IP addresses are usually "dynamic", meaning they're assigned temporarily when you start a session, and taken away from you when you're done. So those can't be tracked effectively, except after the fact and with a subpoena.

But there are other, more effective and easier ways to achieve the desired results.

I also believe there are all sorts of IP anonymizers, so that people in China can look up Falun Gong and the like...

so, for the record, who is the angry poster who keeps getting deleted?
As to say, what is the original name?

"But there are other, more effective and easier ways to achieve the desired results."

Maybe columbiacounty could hit people with the second avenue bus?

>But there are other, more effective and easier ways to achieve the desired results.

do tell

Hey Streeteasy,
I understand that any kind of magic bullet will fail. It also seems that there are enough co-dependants of the trolls to keep the threads going forever. A moderation system could be viable but it could be abused and is more work for you to develop and manage.

How about making another discussion area that is just for this kind of nonsense. Allow the flagged users to post there and people can respond if they feel the need. Don't allow the flagged accounts to post in the regular sections.

Maybe that would allow the regular sections to stay civil without creating as much of an incentive for the uncivil users to switch aliases all the time.

Along side this should be clear and inforced terms for posting in the regular areas.

"It also seems that there are enough co-dependants of the trolls to keep the threads going forever."

Truer words have never been uttered on SE.

All this hand-wringing and speechifying about what's right and wrong and should or should not be done, and all that is really needed is to get the co-dependents into a 3 step program. Not even 12 steps, just 3

Step 1: Just say no to responding to trolls
Step 2: Learn to love the 'report abuse' button
Step 3: Be even a little bit patient. SE will deal with it

has the troll over gone after you?

Yes, constantly.

Did somebody say something?

sidelinesitter: You are smart.

Nobody said nuthin' honey.

columbiacounty
15 minutes ago
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has the troll over gone after you?

you mean with the second avenue bus?

apt23
about 3 hours ago
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report abuse Thanks alan. I not only find that surprising, I find it shocking. If you enter an email address in connection with your username, are you sure a new username cannot be blocked? Or are you saying that SE is not set up that way. I guess I have tried one too many times to get a free trial after an expensive subscription has expired. The blocked access is now part of my psyche.

part of your psyche, like when you called the police and falsely reported a felony gun crime by your husband?

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/19978

streeteasy
about 3 months ago
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... If you continue to give him attention, please don't bother to complain about him.
...

sls, easy for you to say from your comfy BarcaLounger. Try being the recipient endlessly, whether you respond or not. even if on ignore from the responses of others (often unaware) you can tell what's being said. yes, occasionally it gets to me, particularly when others join in, as in the other night in that repellant rs performance, but I really think you'd need to go through it to understand it. I don't know you well, but I think I understand you well enough to know you wouldn't likely roll over easily.

..."particularly when others join in"...

aboutready
about 5 months ago
ignore this person
report abuse
i'll respond when i want to, and ignore when i want to. it's all about what I WANT to do.

i hate your hypocrisy, your need to twist everything to fit your views, your ignorance, your nastiness, your sense that it is somehow OK to try to humiliate and demean someone regularly. there is clearly a difference between an on-line argument or skirmish and stalking, and you know it and elect to go ahead anyway.

but at the end of the day, i like who i am. anonymously and in real life. so do what you will. be as nasty as you feel compelled to be. because that's who YOU are, and that's what YOU'RE reflecting. not me. i don't have any problems showing up to a gathering and telling people who i am. how about you?

"I think I understand you well enough to know you wouldn't likely roll over easily."

Damn straight. I'd be riding the 'report abuse' and 'Feedback' links like a pony.