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Should I pay the lawyer if the deal is cancelled?

Started by shah
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2010
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Just wondering whether I should still pay my lawyer for reviewing the contract despite the deal being cancelled. Thanks
Response by gatornyc
over 15 years ago
Posts: 293
Member since: Jun 2009

Yes. He/she should be paid for the work actually performed.

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Response by sv96
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2009

My lawyer asked for 50% of his fees after the deal fell through, even before the contract was signed. This despite me having done most of the thinking and work myself in bringing up issues during the due diligence. Regardless, I paid him--didn't want to deny a professional his fees.

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Response by SMattingly
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2007

If that was your original deal with the lawyer (as is typical), YES. But some lawyers will defer payment until you complete the next deal, assuming you stay actively in the market, and then *may* discount the work on the failed deal. (Repeat: *may*)

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Response by apt23
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2009

Yes. You have an obligation to pay unless you worked out a contingency before you began work with him/her-- which is unlikely. You can pick up the phone and ask if you can make an arrangement as per SMatt above. If you are not going to continue to look you might even ask if you can schedule payments or gain some other concessions, but you are obligated to pay.

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Response by Mikev
over 15 years ago
Posts: 431
Member since: Jun 2010

My agreement with my attorney read that it was x dollars however if deal falls through then i pay the hourly rate for his time assuming it was less. So if we had met to do contract and it fell apart and he spent 3 hours, all i would have paid was for those 3 hours.

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Response by West81st
over 15 years ago
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A big part of the attorney's service is to find reasons for you NOT to do the deal - in the contract, the Board minutes, the bylaws/house rules, etc. So it seems self-evident that her fee should not be contingent upon the deal closing (unless that's an explicit term of the engagement).

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Response by notadmin
over 15 years ago
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> A big part of the attorney's service is to find reasons for you NOT to do the deal - in the contract, the Board minutes, the bylaws/house rules, etc. So it seems self-evident that her fee should not be contingent upon the deal closing (unless that's an explicit term of the engagement).

great point. so then paying 50% doesn't give the right incentives either. this is unless that lawyer is used regularly by family members and the like, which implies a more long term relation (that's the best incentive imho).

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Response by glamma
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2009

when i had a deal fall through, my attorney only charged me for the hours he worked on my contract.

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
Posts: 4159
Member since: Sep 2008

Doc cares for patient
patient dies
stiff doc.......no
stiff patient.....yes
Doc does work/Doc gets paid
out come is always in the hands of the almighty (RE/Health)

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Response by REFAN
over 15 years ago
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Member since: May 2010

Totally agree with you falcogold!

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Response by notadmin
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

if somebody gets paid for overlooking something, chances are he's gonna overlook it
if a doctor gets paid for doing more procedures... chances are that doctor is gonna use more procedures than usual.

it's all about aligning incentives with optimal outcomes

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Response by notadmin
over 15 years ago
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> than usual.

meant, than needed

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Response by w67thstreet
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2008

Agree w falco. If someone hires a hooker, male or female and can't finish the deed, ya still gotta pay.

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

It all comes down to working with professionals.

That's why the broker gets zip! (just kidding)

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Response by shah
over 15 years ago
Posts: 100
Member since: Mar 2010

Thanks all. It makes sense to pay the lawyer although the deal fell through. I think, if the lawyers knknow they won't be paid if the deal is cancelled, they do everything (hiding the facts) to make you deal.

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Response by bgrfrank
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2010

Makes sense shah, over $3K, the lawyer will risk everything especially their reputation.

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Response by patient09
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Nov 2008

just a long list of lies, perpetrated by the man, trying to keep the brother down!

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Response by LENOXav
over 15 years ago
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Member since: May 2010

Shah!--THAT fully explains the actions of many BROKERS!

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Response by jasonkyle
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

out attorney said just pay me next time and did not charge us anything when our first deal fell apart. which i thought was pretty cool.

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